2011 Stampeders Thread

[Flickered Flame]

CFL sources say Burris took paycut in order to made deal happen with Ticats. Contract restructuring is holding up announcement of deal #cfl

http://twitter.com/#!/SUNIanBusby

[browna]

Given the time frame before Burris got some bonuses, and the very small market (HAM or maybe EDM (who knows what the juve ass grabber is doing at that position) for his services, its ok.

Calgary had to take some contract back, and its safe to say the highest one that is the most redundant on the Ticats is Glenn's. No problem with him as a backup, and if Tate struggles, its a QB that lead HAM over MTL in the playoffs 2 months ago, so its no Bishop going in there.

Farewell Hank.

[cross16]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

Some of you didn't understand the position Huff was in. Come Feb 1, Burris was due some substantial incentives.

The choice was to pay him AND let him walk as a FA or try and find a trading partner knowing Burris' value would be low due to his contract and his poor season.

There's a lot more to running a pro team (football or otherwise) then most of us understand.

For the record, I would have loved to see a good DLman to come back, but obviously that wasn't possible. Hopefully we can pick up a FA.

I agree, and honestly i'm a little suprised they were able to get anything for Burris given what he is due salary wise and that fact that really the STamps had no choice but to cut him prior to paying him. i think you have to give Huff credit just got gettin anything back for Burris let along a good asset like Dewit. Dewitt is obviously not a need for Hamilton with Hage in the fold so for them it's fine to include him and I can't beleive they would give a dline of any valuable in a deal like this. Center is a huge need imo for the Stamps.
Improvement on the Dline can easily come through FA and import signings, non import starters are harder to find IMO so if they have someone who can start at center (looks like they do) and play fairly well they are set on the offensive line once again. I think getting Harrison back healthy would be key and really solidify the line. Yes the line sucked at points last year, but when Harrison went back in and Bryant was able to kick out to RT they were much, much better.

If you are going to roll with Tate IMO you need a CFL veteran to back him up, you can't go get some US guy who has never played the game. You need someone who knows the drill and can play when needed but also help out your young player. Is there potential for Glenn to have attitude issues, sure, but at this point he should realize that it's his only feasible option and I would still suggest it beats the alternative with how upset Hank was.

[worth]

Huff said that he needed a veteran to backup Tate. Burris said he didn't want to be a backup. Trading Burris with Hamilton or Toronto were probably the only two teams in the league that would follow through with the trade.

I'm suprised that so many are suprised with this. It makes sense to me. Yeah, Glenn is Glenn...but he's got some experience, will help Tate and mentor him a bit. Glenn obviously understands what he is coming into this season, and there will be no controversy, and if Tate happens to go down with an injury or play horribly, there will be someone who can actually play football behind him.

I think this is the best we could have hoped for in this situation. We got something in return at least, and have a vertan in the back up position.

[PeteLFan]

Burris n ray go from battle of Alberta to the battle of Ontario.

[Da_Chief]

Love the trade. Frank is way over the hill and didn't wana backup a younger better QB in Tate. Glenn won't be talking much since Tate will be lighting it up so no reason for him to open his trap.

Dewit looks servicable, played center last year when Hage got hurt. OL will likely look different this year as well.

There's lots of money being saved from Reynold, Burris...one of Rambo and Bryant will also be gone, I also think Dales will be let go as well...there are some good defensive players that will potentially be UFAs, time to open up the vault for them Huff.

Exciting time to be a Stamps fan!

[Notorious Honey Badger]

great move by the stamps. really impressed. they lose burris' salary, have one of the best young QB's emerging, and get a young canadian o lineman. bravo stampeders.

[PeteLFan]

Glenn does not play for free I hope you know. Also Tate just signed a extension, I am sure he is making starting QB money as well.

[Notorious Honey Badger]

Glenn likely doesnt make much money and will be a fantastic backup

[moon]

Originally Posted by Notorious Honey Badger

Glenn likely doesnt make much money and will be a fantastic backup

Based on what?

He has been a mediocre to bad QB his whole career, didn't exactly seem overly happy when Porter came in last year and is getting older. What exactly about Glenn makes him a fantastic Back-up?

As for saving money on moving Burris, did Burris have a guaranteed contract? If the Stamps wanted to cut the salary couldn't they just have cut him?

I can see getting a back-up NI lineman as a positive but Glenn (or a QB like him) and cutting salary are two things that easily could have happened without the deal.

[OBCT]

Fair enough, moon, but what prevents the Stampeders from cutting Glenn?

At least with this trade, Calgary gets Burris out of the West, gets a decent NI center and a conditional pick, and improves their SMS situation. Whether or not Glenn is an asset is almost beside the point (I think he is, personally), since his contract is non-guaranteed - just as Burris' was. The only difference is that Glenn is younger and doesn't have a large bonus coming due in a month (that I'm aware of).

[moon]

Originally Posted by OBCT

Fair enough, moon, but what prevents the Stampeders from cutting Glenn?

Nothing.

But if the issue was that Burris makes too much and they wanted cap space then unlike the NHL they don't have to trade him they cut him.

The point is they didn't need to trade Burris to improve their cap space. So that really isn't a positive in the deal because they easily could have done it with the trade or not.

[PeteLFan]

Kevin Glenn is not good, he has been a really bad QB. I hope we never see him in action as a Stampeder.

[cross16]

Originally Posted by moon

Nothing.

But if the issue was that Burris makes too much and they wanted cap space then unlike the NHL they don't have to trade him they cut him.

The point is they didn't need to trade Burris to improve their cap space. So that really isn't a positive in the deal because they easily could have done it with the trade or not.

I agree, between Tate's extension and Glenn i would suspect the Stamps are paying Qbs virtually the same they ddi last year. Huff has spoken recently that he does not expect to save money at the QB position this season.
This trade was about getting something for an asset they didn't require, and also doing something right for Burris who wanted it out, it was not about cap savings. Releasing Reynolds and maybe moving out Rambo or Bryant could save money off their cap, but I don't beleive the cap is a problem for the Stamps.

[Mango]

Does anyone follow Nik Lewis' Twitter?

He posted this earlier today:
Nik Lewis @nikel18
Cornish check. Drew check. Hank gone check. Who's next

Gathering by his Twitter feed, he's a pretty outspoken fellow.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

http://twitter.com/#!/TSNDaveNaylor

Something tells me George Cortez to Hamilton as the HC is all but a done deal, should also mention too that I read something out Buffalo earlier that said its highly unlikely he will be back with the Buffalo Bills next year.

[Flickered Flame]

The other aspect to trading Burris is that in a way the Stamps sent Burris somewhere they could control. They could decide where to send him rather than cutting him loose and allowing him to sign anywhere else. I don't know for sure but I would guess that if the Stamps had just cut him, the Esks would have made an offer. That would have been the worst outcome for the Stamps imo considering they play Edmonton 3 or 4 times every year. Not to mention, right now, the Esks have the worst QB depth in the league, in fact, they are not even close to anyone else.

[Flickered Flame]

Originally Posted by Mango

Does anyone follow Nik Lewis' Twitter?

He posted this earlier today:
Nik Lewis @nikel18
Cornish check. Drew check. Hank gone check. Who's next

Gathering by his Twitter feed, he's a pretty outspoken fellow.

Nik apparently went on QR 77 at around 6:40, anyone catch it? Busby tweeted that he didn't sound nearly upset on the radio as he did on twitter.

[Flickered Flame]

And since the Burris move has brought up free agents, here is a list, some of already signed back with the current team:

BRITISH COLUMBIA LIONS
FB Jamaal Lee
OL Andrew Jones
DL Aaron Hunt
DL Khalif Mitchell
LB Anton McKenzie
DB Dante Marsh
DB Ryan Phillips
K Paul McCallum

EDMONTON ESKIMOS
RB Calvin McCarty
FB Samuel Fournier
WR Andrew Nowacki
OL Kyle Koch
DL Greg Peach
DL Etienne Legare
LB Rod Davis
LB Mark Restelli
K Derek Schiavone

CALGARY STAMPEDERS
WR Arjei Franklin
OL Tim O'Neill
LB Brandon Isaac
LB Marc Calixte
P Burke Dales

SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS
RB Wes Cates
RB Stu Foord
RB Graeme Bell
WR Cary Koch
WR Andy Fantuz
WR Jason Clermont
OL Marc Parenteau
DL Brent Hawkins
LB Jerrell Freeman
DB Leron Mitchell
DB Tristan Jackson

WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS
QB Buck Pierce
QB Joey Elliott
QB Alex Brink
WR Greg Carr
WR Aaron Hargreaves
OL Brendon LaBatte
OL Steve Morley
OL Glenn January
OL Andre Douglas
DL Don Oramasionwu
DB Ian Logan
DB Brady Browne

HAMILTON TIGER-CATS
FB Agustin Barrenechea
WR Matt Carter
OL Jason Jimenez
OL Simeon Rottier
DL Matt Kirk
DL Justin Hickman
LB Ike Brown
DB Jason Shivers
K Justin Medlock

MONTREAL ALOUETTES
WR Eric Deslauriers
OL Scott Flory
DL Jeff Robertshaw
DL Jeremaine McElveen
LB Marc-Olivier Brouillette
LB Walter Spencer
DB Etienne Boulay
DB Mark Estelle
DB Paul Woldu

TORONTO ARGONAUTS
QB Dalton Bell
RB Jeff Johnson
OL Taylor Robertson
OL Rob Murphy
OL Dominic Picard
DL Alex Buzbee
DL Ben Ishola
LB Jason Pottinger
LB Jordan Younger
LB Kevin Eiben
DB Byron Parker
DB Willie Pile
DB Matt Black

http://www.cfldaily.ca/p/2012-cfl-free-agents.html

[RedMileDJ]

And there it is. Via TSN text alert:

Stamps trade QB Henry Burris to Ticats in exchange for QB Kevin Glenn, OL Mark Dewit and a conditional draft pick.

Good luck Henry!