The Tariff Thread

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Any thoughts on how tariffs will impact eBay sales if I sell on eBay to an American buyer that some toys that were brought into Canada a few years by a US manufacturer who created the product in their Chinese factory? Are they going to get nailed on the "country of original manufacture"?

Tough to say. You could try to ascertain what the HS commodity code is for the particular item, then check to see if said code is USMCA compliant by checking USA government websites. Compliant items are exempt from tariffs, of course.

Ascertaining is often the hardest part, and you may try contacting a customs brokerage for help, or the Canadian government directly. Either way it will take a long time to get a response.

This is the list of products (with codes) that Canada has imposed tariffs on from the USA in response to their tariffs on steel, aluminum, autos, etc.

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...ry-4-2025.html

[afc wimbledon]

Typically private second hand sales were exempt under a certain amount, I cant remember how much, but I used to buy some hifi equipment in Seattle at times and it was always waved through, you had to have proof like the ad on ebay or it being obviously old

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Many companies are also price gouging under the guise of tariffs (even though they haven't been applied to that specific merch).

I think having tariff graphics for transparency is a good thing, rather than not so discretely jacking prices up across the board (including for things domestically sourced).

[FlamesAddiction]

How do you put tariffs on movies? I am just trying to figure out how that works. Like the theatres are going to have to charge more? Netflix and Prime add it to their subscription price?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

How do you put tariffs on movies? I am just trying to figure out how that works. Like the theatres are going to have to charge more? Netflix and Prime add it to their subscription price?

I’m not sure how but in terms of Tarrifs this one kind of seems reasonable. Canada, New Zealand, Great Britain all offer massive tax breaks to film movies in their jurisdictions in a race to the bottom to attract films.

Just watch the end of any movie credits to see who’s tossing subsidies to lure away movies. So Tariffing goods and services where other countries are subsidizing to move production away seems reasonable.

[puffnstuff]

Maybe its been mentioned but apparently movies are one thing that he cant tariff by executive order. Theres actually a law against doing it.
Not that it really matters to him.

Dmitry Grozoubinski (@explaintrade.com)

On Trump's "movie tariffs".

Interested in the views of US lawyers.

My plain-reading is that International Economic Emergency Powers Act (IEEPA) specifically excludes messing with movies from the broad authorities it gives the President. ��

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1702

IEEPA - Exceptions to Grant of Authority
The authority granted to the President by this section does not include the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or indirectly...

(3) the importation from any country, or the exportation to any country, whether commercial or otherwise, regardless of format or medium of transmission, of any information or informational materials, including but not limited to, publications, films, posters, phonograph records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds. The exports exempted from regulation or prohibition by this paragraph do not include those which are otherwise controlled for export under section 4604 [3] of this title, or under section 4605 [3] of this title to the extent that such controls promote the nonproliferation or antiterrorism policies of the United States, or with respect to which acts are prohibited by chapter 37 of title 18.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Oh, a law you say?
Well that should clear this up. I'm sure he'll see that and immediately stop, and not actually try to go ahead with it.

This is a poke at Trump, not you puffnstuff.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GGG

I’m not sure how but in terms of Tarrifs this one kind of seems reasonable. Canada, New Zealand, Great Britain all offer massive tax breaks to film movies in their jurisdictions in a race to the bottom to attract films.

Just watch the end of any movie credits to see who’s tossing subsidies to lure away movies. So Tariffing goods and services where other countries are subsidizing to move production away seems reasonable.

Tax breaks and incentives are different than tariffs. Tariffs are for physical goods that cross the border at a point of entry.

If you film a blockbuster in London because a local government is giving you incentives, you aren't physically bringing the film back to the United States. It's digital content, distributed digitally. And even if you are bringing back reels or USB flash drives with the film on it, those physical goods have no commercial value and so the tariff would be immaterial.

Trump, like his base, do not understand tariffs so that's why he is making outlandish statements. It's too dangerous to say something like "I will incentivize Hollywood" because that sounds too much like communism to the cult.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Tax breaks and incentives are different than tariffs. Tariffs are for physical goods that cross the border at a point of entry.

If you film a blockbuster in London because a local government is giving you incentives, you aren't physically bringing the film back to the United States. It's digital content, distributed digitally. And even if you are bringing back reels or USB flash drives with the film on it, those physical goods have no commercial value and so the tariff would be immaterial.

Trump, like his base, do not understand tariffs so that's why he is making outlandish statements. It's too dangerous to say something like "I will incentivize Hollywood" because that sounds too much like communism to the cult.

And the U.S. does it as well. Tax incentives and rebates are a way for promoting job growth and both countries use it in a variety of industries, including in the film industry.

[BigThief]

Trump sent this out on truth social before Prime Minister Carney was set to arrive; Carney is now late by about 20 minutes as everyone waits for his arrival. Ten minutes out by the time of this post

[direwolf]

Lol, he just loves that made up $200 billion number. What a jackass.

[puffnstuff]

Its like hes constantly on 'Whos Line is it Anyways' where the numbers are made up and the points dont matter.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Trump sent this out on truth social before Prime Minister Carney was set to arrive; Carney is now late by about 20 minutes as everyone waits for his arrival. Ten minutes out by the time of this post

So fentanyl is of no consequence?

Despite the fact that the drug was what prompted him to declare the emergency and implement tariffs in the first place?

How did they actually save those 119 million American lives then in 100 days?

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

So fentanyl is of no consequence?

Despite the fact that the drug was what prompted him to declare the emergency and implement tariffs in the first place?

How did they actually save those 119 million American lives then in 100 days?

Also, I’m pretty sure that emergency orders are only supposed to be temporary (90 days I think?) and then it goes to Congress to make the final decision. But the GOP has yet to actually pass anything through the regular process and they’re all just sitting on their asses doing nothing. Trump basically just governs through executive order instead.

[Fuzz]

Looking for gotchas or legal pathways doesn't work with Trump, we are way beyond fretting over them. We need to do what works with him. No, I'm not an expert on that.

[Firebot]

China officially in trade discussions with the US, and also implemented a rate cut...from 1.5 to 1.4%

https://www.theguardian.com/business...de-war-with-us

Meanwhile, reddit is full of posts like these in a typical leopards at my face moment, with Amazon sellers getting hit with 174% in tariffs in some cases due to compounding tariffs and finding their business model ruined

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFBA/c...7000_shipment/



Even food products such as cat food and dog food are running bare and the shelves are starting to get empty. Apparently supplements all come from China.

[Firebot]

* double post

[puffnstuff]

Bessent began to ramble on indirectly, frustrating Pocan. “Who pays tariffs? Mr. Secretary, please the question is very simply who pays tariffs. Mr. Chairman, I’d like him to answer that question, he wants to answer other questions.”
"No, no, no,” Bessent muttered, while Pocan reclaimed his time.

“You clearly aren’t gonna answer, I’m not gonna waste my time having you go ‘uh uh uh uh.’”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tre...IN5Df1sUJNrkTd

[Firebot]

Bessent is like the only semi competent person in the administration and the person largely responsible for convincing Trump to a tariff pause on April 9.

He knows who pays them but saying it gets him fired.

[Shazam]

Who knew Trump was going to be the ultimate anti-consumptionist. Green groups must be over the moon.