Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

LOL. Love how Conservatives view laws. Cool to breach charter rights because you are a bigot, but don't you dare reveal a separatist MLA is breaching their oath of office, lest the public become aware and never elect them again.


You understand there are just reasons people break laws, right?

[TorqueDog]

The only consistency you can expect from f-ckwits like this is "when it's for our team's benefit, it's okay".

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

The only consistency you can expect from f-ckwits like this is "when it's for our team's benefit, it's okay".

That's exactly what Fuzz is asking for. If it takes down some right wing politicians or individuals the end justifies the means. It's all about owning the conservatives.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

That's exactly what Fuzz is asking for. If it takes down some right wing politicians or individuals the end justifies the means. It's all about owning the conservatives.

I think he’s saying it should apply to many sides.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Likely not. While the submitted petitions can be reviewed for a year it appears to be an offense to disclose personal information obtained from the petition.

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

There certainly are a lot of bad actors out there who consider themselves to be above the law when it comes to matters that they believe are for the public good.

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

It's best not to have any concerns about privacy laws, right?

You seem strangely concerned about this. Are you a separatist yourself?

Personally I think separatists should be locked up or literally rounded up and deported. Maybe we could make a deal with the States or something. Take these people and we’ll sell you oil on the cheap for a month or something.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

That's exactly what Fuzz is asking for. If it takes down some right wing politicians or individuals the end justifies the means. It's all about owning the conservatives.

That is what you are saying about Fuzz. The counter argument is that you are the one saying it is okay to ignore how the UCP is breaking the law but you are willing to crack down on whistleblowers that may bring to light the UCP lawbreaking.

Cracking down on whistleblowers is terrible as they are often the only way we can bring evidence to light of the rampant corruption in government. Ending corruption is applicable to any party at any level of government, not just "owning the conservatives". Reasonable people do not allow or support corruption.

The UCP are rampantly corrupt so defending them is pretty gross considering the mountains of evidence demonstrating their corruption and Authoritarian / Fascist actions against the people of Alberta. If you truly think of yourself as a "conservative" then accountability and responsibility should be core values that you expect from government and you should be more critical of the fact that the UCP demonstrates neither of those things.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

That's exactly what Fuzz is asking for. If it takes down some right wing politicians or individuals the end justifies the means. It's all about owning the conservatives.

You don't think there is justification to revealing to the public that an MLA and Premier have been lying about their treason? Yep, better we remain ignorant. It's the law.

[Fuzz]

This is just CG realizing it's the end of the week, and he hasn't managed to publicly lick any UCP boots yet, so forgive the weakness of his argument. It's a Friday afternoon thing.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

That's exactly what Fuzz is asking for. If it takes down some right wing politicians or individuals the end justifies the means. It's all about owning the conservatives.

Watching your brain work is like a watching a Roomba get stuck on the corner of a thick rug.

[puffnstuff]

Wouldnt the people signing the petition be proud of themselves for doing so? And happy to have their name out there?
The petitions I have signed in he last few months bring me no shame.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Wouldnt the people signing the petition be proud of themselves for doing so? And happy to have their name out there?
The petitions I have signed in he last few months bring me no shame.

Anyone that signs a petition whether it be for separation or Forever Canada, MLA recall, Mayoral recall or a federal petition is doing so because they are proud of it and support that cause. Many people will happily share that information on social media or in the public. That is not the issue. The issue comes down to the bad actors who want to get a list so that they can target people who they oppose. They want the names for vindictive reasons. Look at Mr.Coffee who wants the people deported and would likely be happy to use the petition as a deportation list.

This boils down to keeping our sensitive information safe and secure and relates to public safety. Look at what happens when private information or even just sentiment becomes known to bad actors and people start protesting at the homes of elected officials or they start targeting their kids at school. We see this happening right now as well with the petitions in situations like people going after the bakery in Medicine Hat or going after businesses that support the separation petition. Nothing good comes out of having this type of information shared publicly.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Anyone that signs a petition whether it be for separation or Forever Canada, MLA recall, Mayoral recall or a federal petition is doing so because they are proud of it and support that cause. Many people will happily share that information on social media or in the public. That is not the issue. The issue comes down to the bad actors who want to get a list so that they can target people who they oppose. They want the names for vindictive reasons. Look at Mr.Coffee who wants the people deported and would likely be happy to use the petition as a deportation list.

This boils down to keeping our sensitive information safe and secure and relates to public safety. Look at what happens when private information or even just sentiment becomes known to bad actors and people start protesting at the homes of elected officials or they start targeting their kids at school. We see this happening right now as well with the petitions in situations like people going after the bakery in Medicine Hat or going after businesses that support the separation petition. Nothing good comes out of having this type of information shared publicly.

I actually was kidding man. I am well aware of how laws work.