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Old 01-21-2026, 04:16 PM   #28941
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Eliminating the US from our sub RFP was a massive blow to a number of their states as they lost billions of dollars of investment. Doing the same with fighter jets and tanks will again harm American industries in a way that is meaningful.
I'm all for cheering gleefully when things hurt the USA or its industries, particularly in areas that supported Trump, but that shouldn't be how our government operates. That's actually very Trump-esque vindictive thinking. Carney, to his credit, never gives the impression that he operates in that manner. It shouldn't matter how much a particular course of action harms the USA, only how much it helps this country. Not buying US planes and tanks is good for Canada not because it hurts America, but because we're better off with equipment that serves our needs from countries we're still aligned with and who aren't a potential threat.
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Shouldn’t we just go full scale drone production since that’s what war is nowadays anyway?
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Old 01-21-2026, 04:48 PM   #28943
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Shouldn’t we just go full scale drone production since that’s what war is nowadays anyway?
Drone flyovers for the Labour Day Classic or Stampede Rodeo are going to suck in the future.
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Old 01-21-2026, 04:57 PM   #28944
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I'm all for cheering gleefully when things hurt the USA or its industries, particularly in areas that supported Trump, but that shouldn't be how our government operates. That's actually very Trump-esque vindictive thinking. Carney, to his credit, never gives the impression that he operates in that manner. It shouldn't matter how much a particular course of action harms the USA, only how much it helps this country. Not buying US planes and tanks is good for Canada not because it hurts America, but because we're better off with equipment that serves our needs from countries we're still aligned with and who aren't a potential threat.
To put it simply, this is how "voting with your dollars" works. There is nothing vindictive or Trump-esque about it.

And to be clear I did not say anything about harming people, harming their industries is how you speak their language (especially in America) and apply pressure to indirectly create change.

We do not have the power to affect change in a direct way, but we do have some power and some leverage to influence the situation. If boycotting American alcohol companies to the point where Jim Bean is closing their primary facility is not enough, then redirecting our military spending away from Lockheed Martin should get some lobbyists moving in DC to change the course of action the American government is moving in before they lose billions of dollars.

Each of these moves have layers to them. Yes, one of the layers is "what is best for Canada", another layer is "reducing reliance on a bad ally", yet another layer is "applying pressure in hope that it helps the bad ally change their course of action", or "rewarding good allies who want to build healthy partnerships where we both get stronger". Publicly, we will always talk about what is best for Canada but that doesn't mean the other motivations are not baked in as well.

The entire EU is gearing up to do the same things and none of it is because they want to hurt Americans, they are simply setting the stage to protect their interests and if they can create enough pain in certain industries in America then it may result in American billionaires kicking down the door to tell the blob that he needs to stop before he permanently costs them all access to the entire EU market.
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Amazing speech and you can read the full text here.

https://paulwells.substack.com/p/the...dRedirect=true
I finally got to this today.
Bravo, Mr Carney
Clearly has drawn the ire of POTUS. So be it.
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