2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by RedMan12

Warrener talked Regehr into it, so you never know.

Which I'm not sure worked out the way Regehr wanted it to.

I think going back to the summer 1:1 they had he said it was much more comfortable in the Western Conference.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Small update:

Flames have struck up conversations with NYR again, going back to the summer discussions.
Nothing close, but Kakko has been on their radar before, and I'm told the Flames still have interest.

Caveat here is price, in the summer it was still too high but could be more manageable now.

I like Kakko...

Geez, anyone notice that Will Cuylle has 18 points in 21 games?

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I like Kakko...

Bennett. I think tre didn't get value. We need to make that type of trade. Kako fits the bill
Drury is smarter than tre and new york players are hyped

[CFO]

Drury owes the flames for hating it when he played here.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

The Flames definitely need to figure out a succession plan at centre. They have another 2-3 years with Backlund and Kadri as quality top 9 centres.

I think that the Flames should try their own centres for a bit of a longer time period before chasing someone outside the organization.

Zary looks just fine at C, and he's getting more and more comfortable in that role.

IMO Kerins deserves a call-up. 13G, 19P, and +10 in 19GP. That's an NHLe of 40, which makes me curious to see what we have in the guy.

Pospisil though better as a winger, was pretty good at C to start, but then he got in the coach's doghouse by taking needless penalties. Now he just looks like a player that's struggling with his confidence, and isn't sure what his role is.

But we're supposed to be contenders in 3 years..

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Bennett. I think tre didn't get value. We need to make that type of trade. Kako fits the bill
Drury is smarter than tre and new york players are hyped

Yeah the whole Bennett thing was botched completely.

It's the exact type of move we need to make.
Alot of posters would cry though if we spent x2 2nds on 24 year old guy with 12 points in 38 games.

Hayton,krebs, newhook and rasmussen all kind of fit that age/pedigree/lack of performance so far.


I didn't realize it but hes almost a ppg this year so far.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I like Kakko...

Geez, anyone notice that Will Cuylle has 18 points in 21 games?

Cuylle is a player, but I doubt NYR moves him.
Kakko is a reclamation project at this point, and I honestly feel its worth the risk as he fits the age group and position we need.

With that said where does he slot in here?

And what do we give up? or what are we comfortable giving up at this point? The ask was a 1st+ in the summer..

Andersson would be too much.
Kuzmenko has no value.
Kadri isn't going anywhere.
1st is too steep at this point.
NYR don't need a goalie.

Not that I know if NYR has any interest, but would Pelletier be a starting point?
2nd + 3rd?
2 2nd's (Bennett deal)

I'll add that Dreger said this morning that he thinks Kakko would be a sneaky good pickup.
Feels his pre-draft play is still there and that the NYR coaches didn't give him a long leash.
Needs a fresh start, compares it to Bennett.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Cuylle is a player, but I doubt NYR moves him.
Kakko is a reclamation project at this point, and I honestly feel its worth the risk as he fits the age group and position we need.

With that said Kakko today is not a Top 2 center on MOST teams, so where does he slot in here?

And what do we give up? or what are we comfortable giving up at this point? The ask was a 1st+ in the summer..

Andersson would be too much.
Kuzmenko has no value.
Kadri isn't going anywhere.
1st is too steep at this point.
NYR don't need a goalie.

Not that I know if NYR has any interest, but would Pelletier be a starting point?
2nd + 3rd?
2 2nd's (Bennett deal)

Pretty sure Kakko is a right winger. Not sure if he’s ever played center.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Pretty sure Kakko is a right winger. Not sure if he’s ever played center.

You're right, my brain is not working today!
He's played center for NYR this year though, he did it against the Flames the other night.

I think he's currently centering a line with Edstrom and Smith.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Cuylle is a player, but I doubt NYR moves him.
Kakko is a reclamation project at this point, and I honestly feel its worth the risk as he fits the age group and position we need.

With that said Kakko today is not a Top 2 center on MOST teams, so where does he slot in here?

And what do we give up? or what are we comfortable giving up at this point? The ask was a 1st+ in the summer..

Andersson would be too much.
Kuzmenko has no value.
Kadri isn't going anywhere.
1st is too steep at this point.
NYR don't need a goalie.

Not that I know if NYR has any interest, but would Pelletier be a starting point?
2nd + 3rd?
2 2nd's (Bennett deal)

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to insinuate that we should go after Cuylle. Kakko is a little more than a reclamation project IMO, as he's got 12 points in 21 games so far this year.

[Harry Lime]

It's New York. I'd put money on them wanting Pospisil and a pick.

[Tbull8]

I think I would do that tbh. If that pick is a third/fourth maybe

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

It's New York. I'd put money on them wanting Pospisil and a pick.

That probably sounds about right actually. Pospisil + 3rd?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

It's New York. I'd put money on them wanting Pospisil and a pick.

Pospisil + COL's 2nd?

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

Rangers are currently getting dominated by PHI this afternoon (outshot 18-4, down 2-0).

Show me a reactionary trade!

IF they are in fact trading Trouba in a separate trade at some point, Andersson could be an impact player for them going forward - especially considering their cap constraints and who they need to pay this coming summer.

Andersson is definitely worth more than Kakko alone though.

3-way magic?

To BUF: Trouba, Pospisil, NYR 2025 1st
To CGY: Cozens, Kakko
To NYR: Andersson

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I think Kerins is one of those guys that is just going to take time to get to his potential. Since his draft year he has been progressing well, I think it is important he has some sustained success in the AHL before getting a look in the Flames lineup. I think he could be a guy you bring up for a few games at the very end of the season so he can get a feel for the speed of the game. No rush for him.

Give him some time I agree. Mathew Phillips? Gawdin? Pelletier? Ahl success no guarantee. Let the brass decide. Been ok with prospects imo

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to insinuate that we should go after Cuylle. Kakko is a little more than a reclamation project IMO, as he's got 12 points in 21 games so far this year.

Pretty underwhelming for a 2OA. Mind you that entire first round outside of Hughes has been underwhelming.

[konradical]

Kakko isnt that bad, he just never really had a chance to become really good, same happened with laffy (although he has enough talent to work out of it now).

Kakko most likely wont be a star anymore, but he can still be a top 6 guy very easily. He got buried in NYR. When he was given a chance he potted 40 in 80 games as a 21 year old. He has been treated exactly like Bennett has. Idk what the price is but i wouldnt mind doing Pelltier +2 nd for him. Not sure if theyd be into taking Kuzmenko.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Pretty underwhelming for a 2OA. Mind you that entire first round outside of Hughes has been underwhelming.

Yeah there should be much better production from a player picked 2nd overall, especially when said player put up the kind of numbers he did back home. Not sure what his ceiling is, but he’s in dire need of a change.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Royle9

You're right, my brain is not working today!
He's played center for NYR this year though, he did it against the Flames the other night.

I think he's currently centering a line with Edstrom and Smith.

Do you happen to know how many games he’s played at centre this year? I’ve not being paying attention, but Kakko seems more intriguing if he’s played centre a fair number of games this season. His stats and metrics look pretty decent.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Top 6 center acquisition cost

Cory stillman top 6 pick for conroy (3rd line center upside at time)
Gauthier and saprykkn) (top 4 d and top 9 forwarf on winnkng both firsts) for langkow (top 6 center noy 1st line)
Lombardi (zary like start top 6 center) and ptust (posipsil like) and 1st for jokinen
Trade rumor tkachuk needed for eichel

I think we need to build more depth and have existing players build value to afford these trades.

When eichel comes available next... somebody do we have a tuch anf Krebs to trade... depth.

It will cost two or more of honzek coronato anderson basha gridin etc to acquire top 6 center.

Danielson beniers Johnson even cozens I think will be two of above min if available. Reality

Conroy knows value of center. Traded lindholm for haul. Will he take a risk? Unless u pick a needle haystack price is high for what we want. Nhl gms will ask for parekh etc. Do we have depth? Not now imo
Going to cost us

Good thing you edited it, otherwise it would have been unreadable.

I think everyone is hoping that Conroy can strike gold on a reclamation project and not have to pay full price. But you are right, you have to pay for quality.