2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Well it really wouldn't be Maloney's fault in this, he is just the mouthpiece for ownership. If it is true Edwards is meddling we are in trouble unless we get lucky and he sells the team to another local buyer. Now everything I have ever heard is that Conroy has full power to make any moves he wants so this seems to contradict that. I don't know what the true story is here.

I mean, I think we’re all hoping you’re right at the end of the day.

However there was a done deal already and “something” happened which resulted in Markstroms outburst at ownership which has since been silenced from Flames TV media.

So outside of ownership meddling, what else could cause the deal to fall apart?
It surely wasn’t “retention” that was originally reported as being the issue because both yourself and Sec confirmed and validated by the current trades that eating salary isn’t an issue.

That leaves meddling or Markstrom blocking it and he seemed pretty clear someone up top jerked him around.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

But he's signed for 2 years. The flames can say no we're not moving you to your 1 team, and you can backup Wolf

Haha. Having an unhappy Markstrom would not be good for anybody.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by flambers

Sure, however that's never going to occur.

Unless he turns back into the worst goalie in the league, which happens from time to time.

[Monahammer]

Conroy has only ever represented publicly that he will move all UFAs who he doesn't believe will re- sign the team. He has now done that. Markstrom is not a FA, so it could be there that Murray and he disagreed and thus he was prevented from executing the trade?

It's an abhorrently stupid decision that I have trouble believing, but two people with public reputations that could theoretically catch retribution from Murray Edwards are saying this. I don't think they would unless they are pretty convinced.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by flambers

Sure, As per the video with Dreger,

Markstrom at the end of the season, could say I will only waive for 1 team

(i.e. zero control)

I believe this is what occurred with Iginla

Right, but let's say in the unlikely event that happens, how would NJ know that? Unless Markstrom's agent goes public with it at which point the league has to start stepping in here because basically agents are tampering.

[Jiggy_12]

Today sucks. I want yesterday back

[flambers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Right, but let's say in the unlikely event that happens, how would NJ know that? Unless Markstrom's agent goes public with it at which point the league has to start stepping in here because basically agents are tampering.

Why was Hanifin's deal so difficult, speculation was the agent.


However its a risk, I would bet the Flames are well aware of.

[BeltlineFan]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

Today sucks. I want yesterday back

[daveinspruce]

This owner and the upper management team are idiots.
Going forward starting tonight Markstrom is going to be hung out to dry and these last remaining games he is going to look absolutely horrible like last year. And his stock for the summer is going to plummet. We will be lucky to get a third and a sixth

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I mean, I think we’re all hoping you’re right at the end of the day.

However there was a done deal already and “something” happened which resulted in Markstroms outburst at ownership which has since been silenced from Flames TV media.

So outside of ownership meddling, what else could cause the deal to fall apart?
It surely wasn’t “retention” that was originally reported as being the issue because both yourself and Sec confirmed and validated by the current trades that eating salary isn’t an issue.

That leaves meddling or Markstrom blocking it and he seemed pretty clear someone up top jerked him around.

There's lots of talk that it was the return for that retention that was a stumbling block. In other words, they couldn't agree on price.

Sometimes deals just fall apart because the two sides can't agree to the final terms.

Conroy said the issue was about communication. So Markstrom thought there was a deal, but it hadn't been finalized. It's not complicated.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

There's lots of talk that it was the return for that retention that was a stumbling block. In other words, they couldn't agree on price.

Sometimes deals just fall apart because the two sides can't agree to the final terms.

Conroy said the issue was about communication. So Markstrom thought there was a deal, but it hadn't been finalized. It's not complicated.

In this sea of mostly unsubstantiated theories I choose to believe this.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

There's lots of talk that it was the return for that retention that was a stumbling block. In other words, they couldn't agree on price.

Sometimes deals just fall apart because the two sides can't agree to the final terms.

Conroy said the issue was about communication. So Markstrom thought there was a deal, but it hadn't been finalized. It's not complicated.

You’re not wrong for sure things happen.
But NJD have made it very clear they want to get back to the table and even offered no retention, yet Calgary isn’t budging?

Just seems to be so many coincidences, and all of them lead back to both Dreger and Seravalli saying ownership meddled.

[Shazam]

For all we know a trade's happened and it's stuck at the NHL head office.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by flambers

Why was Hanifin's deal so difficult, speculation was the agent.


However its a risk, I would bet the Flames are well aware of.

Agreed, it was the agent and I think the league needs to address this for the future. I think going forward the league needs to hand out large fines to agents that essentially tamper with the market.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

You’re not wrong for sure things happen.
But NJD have made it very clear they want to get back to the table and even offered no retention, yet Calgary isn’t budging?

Just seems to be so many coincidences, and all of them lead back to both Dreger and Seravalli saying ownership meddled.

The no retention deal would be a lot different - Calgary is likley being offered a lot less.

People complained that Conroy went too soon and got a bad return for Hanifin and now they complain that he's not moving quickly enough on Markstrom.

[Southside403]

The Marky situation is not good now we have a pist off player saw all of his buds leave and the leaks didn't make things better.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Agreed, it was the agent and I think the league needs to address this for the future. I think going forward the league needs to hand out large fines to agents that essentially tamper with the market.

Do any of the other sports currently do this?

I can see it being near impossible to police/enforce.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't think its the retention piece, I think they are fine with retaining which has been stated.

The issue is the dumb idea we are somehow going to roll into the playoffs after trading away 3 big pieces of the team for futures.

Seriously you can't be that dumb.

Also killing the value for Markstrom in the offseason.

[dissentowner]

Don't discount the Maple Leafs trying to make a play for Markstrom tmrw, I am hearing rumblings from an East source.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Don't discount the Maple Leafs trying to make a play for Markstrom tmrw, I am hearing rumblings from an East source.

hopefully the compeition will make Fitz put Mercer on the table.