Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Every UCP voter deserves to get syphilis, gonarhea, herpes and a yeast infection at the same time. stupid mofos.

Relax with the theatrics. It's a democracy, people voted for who they wanted and got the associated results.

Does your line of thinking apply to the federal government? The way Carney is ripping apart Trudeau's policies poking holes in his moronic 10 year tenure as PM would indicate it was bad. Do all Trudeau era voting Liberals deserve bad things too? Some Conservatives may think so but I don't.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Relax with the theatrics. It's a democracy, people voted for who they wanted and got the associated results.

Does your line of thinking apply to the federal government? The way Carney is ripping apart Trudeau's policies poking holes in his moronic 10 year tenure as PM would indicate it was bad. Do all Trudeau era voting Liberals deserve bad things too? Some Conservatives may think so but I don't.

You've got to be kidding me.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Relax with the theatrics. It's a democracy, people voted for who they wanted and got the associated results.

Does your line of thinking apply to the federal government? The way Carney is ripping apart Trudeau's policies poking holes in his moronic 10 year tenure as PM would indicate it was bad. Do all Trudeau era voting Liberals deserve bad things too? Some Conservatives may think so but I don't.

haha. It is a democracy, but you are an effing deplorable moron if you voted the past 2 elections for the UCP.

But yeah Turdeau was terrible and if he wasn't running against a mini trump piece of kyit in PP you deserve to get a STD too.

[Point Blank]

When unsure, ignorant, and too stubborn to learn, deflect to feds or immigrants. Classic.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Huh, they must have added that later. I went on day 3.

You were in phase 1 eligibility though right? I wonder if the electronic signing pads and payment information went up for us phase 2 folks?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Relax with the theatrics. It's a democracy, people voted for who they wanted and got the associated results.

Does your line of thinking apply to the federal government? The way Carney is ripping apart Trudeau's policies poking holes in his moronic 10 year tenure as PM would indicate it was bad. Do all Trudeau era voting Liberals deserve bad things too? Some Conservatives may think so but I don't.

Guys, this is a good point.

Carney doesn't agree with all of Trudeau's policies, thinks he has more effective ways to achieve the same, or similar results, and is reacting to changing circumstances which may require a change in priorties.

This is exactly the same as the Alberta Government using the NWC to strip the rights from teachers to ensure Alberta continues to be at the bottom of $/student spend in Canada.

It is exactly the same as enacting policies with the intent of harming a very vulnerable population
Note the "Keeping Children Safe Act" is not meant to, nor will it protect anyone.
It is meant to cause harm to a vulnerable population.
It is not science, or evidence based.
It is fear based policy with the intent, and ultimate result of harm for harm's sake

See...same thing.

[ajr4013]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

You were in phase 1 eligibility though right? I wonder if the electronic signing pads and payment information went up for us phase 2 folks?

I did phase 1 and had to sign; maybe I glossed over that you might need to pay later but guess I won't be surprised now if it happens.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yeah, dude. The $160 was for Covid and Flu. You do have to pay for both, but that was the combined total.

I wrestled with this last night because I'm worried for my staff having to pay this much, so today I put out a memo. Get your shot before November 30 and I'll pay for it. Bring me the receipt once you have it or come to me ahead of time and I'll give you the money up front.

I can't believe POS UCP voters want to make things less healthy and more difficult for lower earners. I can eat this $160 for myself, but it's a huge sum for others and I know some people are opting to save the money and roll the dice on their health.

If you voted for this garbage you're truly vile.

Well, I know a guy who could set up a benefits plan so that your staff wouldn't have to pay for this kind of thing!

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You've got to be kidding me.

Not at all. Although I am a Conservative (didn't vote UCP last election) I never believe in directing full blame for everything to voters. Heck even most people in politics at the local and federal level are not even to blame, it's the inner circle and the power brokers.

Yes the UCP is not doing well at all, I have expressed serious reservations and concern to friends of mine in cabinet.

Most voters of any party usually just vote for an issue or two or go with a candidate that happened to stop by their home , business or gathering space.

Only the people who are really into politics, policy and the inner dealings really pay attention. The NDP lead by Singh was beyond a disaster and a sad sack of patheticness during his entire tenure. How many voters in Alberta and Canada would make the connection that the AB NDP and feds are really different? How many people knew that the BC Liberals are effectively a conservative party?

I am old school and prefer to go after politicians as opposed to going after voters

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Not at all. Although I am a Conservative (didn't vote UCP last election) I never believe in directing full blame for everything to voters. Heck even most people in politics at the local and federal level are not even to blame, it's the inner circle and the power brokers.

Yes the UCP is not doing well at all, I have expressed serious reservations and concern to friends of mine in cabinet.

Most voters of any party usually just vote for an issue or two or go with a candidate that happened to stop by their home , business or gathering space.

Only the people who are really into politics, policy and the inner dealings really pay attention. The NDP lead by Singh was beyond a disaster and a sad sack of patheticness during his entire tenure. How many voters in Alberta and Canada would make the connection that the AB NDP and feds are really different? How many people knew that the BC Liberals are effectively a conservative party?

I am old school and prefer to go after politicians as opposed to going after voters

I hope all your "friends" have itchy crotches for the next few years.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Not at all. Although I am a Conservative (didn't vote UCP last election) I never believe in directing full blame for everything to voters. Heck even most people in politics at the local and federal level are not even to blame, it's the inner circle and the power brokers.

Yes the UCP is not doing well at all, I have expressed serious reservations and concern to friends of mine in cabinet.

Most voters of any party usually just vote for an issue or two or go with a candidate that happened to stop by their home , business or gathering space.

Only the people who are really into politics, policy and the inner dealings really pay attention. The NDP lead by Singh was beyond a disaster and a sad sack of patheticness during his entire tenure. How many voters in Alberta and Canada would make the connection that the AB NDP and feds are really different? How many people knew that the BC Liberals are effectively a conservative party?

I am old school and prefer to go after politicians as opposed to going after voters

Voters have just as much responsibility as politicians. We are the ones who give them power. Maybe they shouldn't be voting if they didn't figure out the vague outlines of what she stood for. And if they still support the UCP now? Honestly, #### them. #### everyone who stands by politicians stripping the rights, healthcare, and education from their citizens, and then uses the nuclear option to confirm it. If you don't see all the ways in which this government is awful, you are an idiot, extremely selfish, probably both.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well, I know a guy who could set up a benefits plan so that your staff wouldn't have to pay for this kind of thing!

A health spending account, perhaps? I did look into that, but most are ESL and I had a really difficult time trying to explain that to them, so I opted for a more conventional old-school plan that's more hands off for me and my office manager. It's fairly basic, but my family is on the same one and it's decent. Canada Life.

Edit: Thanks, though, Slava! If we ever change I'll call you. I know you've supported us!

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Sliver

A health spending account, perhaps? I did look into that, but most are ESL and I had a really difficult time trying to explain that to them, so I opted for a more conventional old-school plan that's more hands off for me and my office manager. It's fairly basic, but my family is on the same one and it's decent. Canada Life.

Edit: Thanks, though, Slava! If we ever change I'll call you. I know you've supported us!

I'm not worried about it, and just giving you an option. It does suck that the government is making people pay for this and other pay-to-play healthcare. It makes me incredibly upset, actually, to the point where I almost gave money to the NDP yesterday. I just don't want to deal with the decade or more of harassment from a political party after that!

If I do give money though, I'll do that before year end and again in January. I just hate the UCP and their actions so much at this point, that I feel very motivated to have them sent packing. My MLA is NDP, so I can't really participate in the recall signatures.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Wrote my MLA about how reprehensible the UCP are to invoke the NWC on such flimsy grounds. Won't matter much, as we aren't in a recall-friendly riding, but it felt good to write in.

[Muta]

Unsurprisingly, not a peep of this news on the second use of the NWC anywhere on calgaryherald.com right now lol

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by troutman

Or cross the border to BC or SK. I’m looking to get it done in Sparwood.

I wouldn't assume that'll work. There's limited availability here and they're prioritizing BC residents

[Captain Otto]

Regarding the COVID shot and paying for the stupid thing, if you are in the underlying medical conditions that make it free, do you have to bring some sort of paperwork in to prove it?

[woob]

I feel so hopeless with this. I'm fully planning on participating in my MLAs recall and helping where I can, but even that feels useless if UCP denies the necessary budget to Alberta Elections, or recalls recall leglisation.

How is NOBODY in the UCP caucus bothered by this nonchalant use off the NWC? Every single one of them is basically giving the bird to the charter and democratic principles.

What can we do other than take to the streets, which ultimately doesn't do anything?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

Regarding the COVID shot and paying for the stupid thing, if you are in the underlying medical conditions that make it free, do you have to bring some sort of paperwork in to prove it?

Nope. Not a damn thing.

[Harry Lime]

Tab for the Dynalife fiasco put at over $100M. That's a lot of lightbulbs.