2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

Seems as if Mercer has been the Flames target all along but Jersey refuses to move him. After what we saw today, I feel like expectations need to be lowered as teams don’t seem to want to part with highly coveted young players. Considering where Markstrom was last year, getting a first with conditions and a lower level prospect seems reasonable. Hope I’m wrong.

Hanifin was a pending UFA

Markstrom has 2 years left

Team control matters. These are very different things

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There's a space behind Guentzel that Mangiapane can fill for trade seekers needing a winger. Detroit, Carolina plus a bunch more looking for wing.

There's deals to be made.


EDIT: on the Markstrom front, they don't have to move him but I imagine the windows wide open for that NTC to waive for many teams now. Whatever enticed Markstrom to sign here is now exclusively gone save 5 players. Mang, Coleman, Andersson, Shilly and Backs.

If I was Markstrom I'd be really inspired to find a better situation now.

I have never been a Big Backlund guy but you can't argue what he brings when you look at that list. All five of those guys do give a ####. They care.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Quite the what if there fella…

And if not from (a very successful) ahl team, where would you suggest confit finds guys who’ve “earned it”?

Um, free agency and future trades.

I don't expect them to make the playoffs next season. But I'm also not dismissing that they can't make it sooner than three years. I didn't think they would make it in 2015 either.

My point is though that I highly doubt Conroy is making his decisions based on the status of what draft pick Montreal gets because of Treliving's mistake. If the team happened to exceed expectations he's not going to be upset.

[OILFAN #81]

Could see the Oilers getting someone like Edmundson from Washington as a depth piece on defense.

Tidbit from SJ. Duclair has been actively shopped and 3 teams told SJ to circle back to them so the interest is there.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Could see the Oilers getting someone like Edmundson from Washington as a depth piece on defense.

Tidbit from SJ. Duclair has been actively shopped and 3 teams told SJ to circle back to them so the interest is there.

Edmundson is no good

[FlamesFan1000]

Just realized Makar’s contract expires just before the Flames new arena is expected to open. Finishes in the 2026-2027 season, and the building is expected to be complete at the end of 2026. How likely would it be Colorado sends our boy back to us then?

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by FlamesFan1000

Just realized Makar’s contract expires just before the Flames new arena is expected to open. Finishes in the 2026-2027 season, and the building is expected to be complete at the end of 2026. How likely would it be Colorado sends our boy back to us then?

We MIGHT have a chance at him if he goes to UFA

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

We MIGHT have a chance at him if he goes to UFA

I imagine the Avs will move heaven and earth to re-sign him.

[Bert]

Well... All the Hanifin stuff made me decide to make an account finally haha. Good to be part of the discussion instead of lurking.

My thoughts tho (Also posted on HF for those of you there)

So I was just thinking, say we get another first from New Jersey for Markstrom, what would everyone think if Conroy parlayed some of that capital into buying a young player who could do with a change of scenery, or someone a little further in their development?

Kakko, Zegras, Wright, Johnson could fit this mould. Pinto or Greig would be interesting as well from Ottawa.

Just because we didn’t get a center prospect doesn’t mean we can’t acquire one with petigree and see what happens.

Think Montreal with Newhook and Dach.

We still have a decent team, if some of these D we have acquired hit, we can fill in the holes up front with the draft picks.

IMO I would try and bring some guys up for that fourth line for the rest of the season. I would like to see what we have in the system before grabbing some reinforcements. Guys like Schwindt, Ciona, or Keirns should get a look. Move Pellitier up the lineup and play him with some people with some god damn talent.

Maybe see if you can move Mangiapane with some retention instead of retaining on Markstrom. There are tonnes of ways to improve this team with the assets we have, just need to get creative. And hope management stays the f outta things and let the man work.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I imagine the Avs will move heaven and earth to re-sign him.

But.. he’s from here! Gotta lean in to it

Also… the altitude. Denver is too high. Imagine how effective he’d be at a lower altitude

Somebody could release a remake of California girls (but not Weird Al) called Calgary girls, and he may find a gal to settle down with here

Ok maybe we are reaching

But John Tavares had his leaf jammies.

Show him videos of the red mile. He was 5 or 6 then, he’ll get it now

Too bad the Kipper tribute night was wasted on Crosby. I don’t see him coming here


Gotta figure out how to get Makar. He is special

[AC]

Originally Posted by Bert

So I was just thinking, say we get another first from New Jersey for Markstrom, what would everyone think if Conroy parlayed some of that capital into buying a young player who could do with a change of scenery, or someone a little further in their development?

Kakko, Zegras, Wright, Johnson could fit this mould. Pinto or Greig would be interesting as well from Ottawa.

I do like the idea if the right fit came along. I wouldn't expect a playoff team like the Rangers to trade Kakko at this deadline for a 1st, that's probably a off-season move if they would do it.

There was some suggestion the Flames have checked in on Zegras though.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Bert

Well... All the Hanifin stuff made me decide to make an account finally haha. Good to be part of the discussion instead of lurking.

My thoughts tho (Also posted on HF for those of you there)

So I was just thinking, say we get another first from New Jersey for Markstrom, what would everyone think if Conroy parlayed some of that capital into buying a young player who could do with a change of scenery, or someone a little further in their development?

Kakko, Zegras, Wright, Johnson could fit this mould. Pinto or Greig would be interesting as well from Ottawa.

Just because we didn’t get a center prospect doesn’t mean we can’t acquire one with petigree and see what happens.

Think Montreal with Newhook and Dach.

We still have a decent team, if some of these D we have acquired hit, we can fill in the holes up front with the draft picks.

IMO I would try and bring some guys up for that fourth line for the rest of the season. I would like to see what we have in the system before grabbing some reinforcements. Guys like Schwindt, Ciona, or Keirns should get a look. Move Pellitier up the lineup and play him with some people with some god damn talent.

Maybe see if you can move Mangiapane with some retention instead of retaining on Markstrom. There are tonnes of ways to improve this team with the assets we have, just need to get creative. And hope management stays the f outta things and let the man work.

100%. And now is the time to stockpile picks. At the draft, those picks are always more valuable. Maybe a guy falls to that Canucks 1st and all of a sudden a team calls that highly covets that player and is willing to overpay with a different young asset they have. Draft picks are currency, and Conroy is stocking up for when they have the highest value

[Bert]

Originally Posted by AC

I do like the idea if the right fit came along. I wouldn't expect a playoff team like the Rangers to trade Kakko at this deadline for a 1st, that's probably a off-season move if they would do it.

There was some suggestion the Flames have checked in on Zegras though.

Yeah not saying for sure to do it before the deadline, but the offseason maybe check in on some of these teams and see if you can pry one loose. Anyone we draft will be that much further away, so if you identify someone you think you can get their potential out of them, roll the dice.

There are many ways to build the team, and I will cheer as long as the product is entertaining. If the boys look like the actually give a #### and play with some fire ill be in regardless

[Roof-Daddy]

So Conroy is up to 25 picks for the next three drafts now.

Still might be able to get a late pick for Rooney maybe, and if Markstrom isn't dealt by the TDL I would hope Vladar is dealt and that should bring another pick in.

Also has Sharangovich, Kuzmenko and Mangiapane as TDL bait for next year if not extended.

Just keep piling up picks CC

[Flames1217]

So what are the odds the Flames deal Marky before the end of the day tomorrow ?

I am no longer expecting Mercer or Holtz though maybe a first and a B prospect.

I also think Conroy is going to somewhat buy in going after a U-25 centre. Team is still in it (somewhat) and he may want to add but also look to the future at the same time. Could easily see him trading for a expiring RFA centre and signing said centre long term.

Even if the big chips have been dealt, we still have a very interesting 30 some odd hours in front of us.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Oh, I also know I still forget to use paragraphs too.

Don’t worry, you’re fine

[kyuss275]

Think it’s going to be very quite from now till deadline for flames. Don’t think there is a chance in hell fitz gives in and sends us mercer for Markstrom at this stage. He waited way too late. Hopefully he sees the error in his ways and puts mercer on table in summer..

Don’t think anybody is going to want mangiapane at his salary considering how tight a lot of these playoff teams are cap wise right now. If rumours are true that he is unhappy with flames I would certainly deal him in the summer .

I saw a post about trading Gilbert . Can’t see anybody giving up anything for him. I like him but we have been picking up better D on the waiver wire.

[Roof-Daddy]

According to CF the Flames have $6,975,726 of TDL cap space built up.

Hopefully they can utilize that by taking on a bad contract or two and collect some more draft picks for the 2024-26 drafts. Would be better if it was an expiring contract, just to have a clean slate this off season, but if it carries over for another year or two it'll just increase the return for taking it.

Also have one retention slot left as well.

[Phil Russell]

I think CC has done pretty well in a changed trade market. It's pretty clear that GMs are no longer willing to move A grade prospects for rentals--those entry level cost controlled contracts are too valuable to expect for an expiring UFA. 1st and conditional 2nd/3rd picks are the tradeable asset du jour and CC has done well by that reality. He has also gone after B level prospects he likes and I appreciate that--no one knows how those play out but it will be fun to watch. And most importantly, the rebuild is clearly on and that's something we weren't entirely sure about just a few months ago. GFG

[ForeverFlameFan]

With the cap increase from 83.5m —> 87.5m, the Flames will have roughly 20m cap space to utilize with only Kylington as the only notable player to re-sign this off-season.