[Rumour] Weekes: Flames offering Tkachuk, 1st, former 1st, 2 prospects for Eichel

[klikitiklik]

Originally Posted by Buff

1989 & 1986

Calgary - #19 - Tim Hunter

Montreal - #19 - Larry Robinson


Calgary can overcome the odds.

Chuck kobasew - #19 took us to the 2004 cup which we won

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Tough, but I'd do it in a heartbeat.


Eichel


2022 1st
TkachukMonahan
Valimaki
Poirier
Phillips

FYP. Makes much more sense. They do need a centre and Monahan is a good centre.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

Nope nope nope. You get Eichel to make sure Tkachuck and JG resign here. No thanks. . Those two and Lindholm are my untouchables and I will be furious if any of the three of them are included

That may have always been unrealistic. Such is the cap era.

At this point we're just lucky that Lindholm costs what he does so that we have a shot at affording mangiapane.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

FYP. Makes much more sense. They do need a centre and Monahan is a good centre.

More sense for Calgary, sure.

[Azure]

"Future captain potential"

Who decided that?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

Eichel isn't a top 5 player. And he needs a serious surgery. You don't trade away all these futures for Eichel. You try to draft and develop one. Tkachuk would get a huge return that could help the Flames for years to come.

Hasn’t gone so good drafting those.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

This is what bad organizations do. If the Flames make this trade they will put the organization back a long time.

Would you consider the 2012-2014 Kings a bad organization for going all-in on Carter+Gaborik? Because they would consider themselves a 2x Cup Champ

Would you consider the 2019-21 Lightning a bad organization for giving up futures for guys like Savard, Coleman, Goodrow while bleeding talent like Verhaeghe, Gourde, and Coleman to cap crunches? Because they would consider themselves a 2x Cup Champ.

You go all in, or you tank.

Bad organizations are the ones who do SFA and just talk about culture and pride.

[Azure]

If you really think about it and what Weekes said is true, there is no way Buffalo doesn't already have the deal signed and done.

Therefore I call BS.

Someone call Dreger. We need some actual insider information.

[klikitiklik]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Bettman demanding a trade get done so that the news cycle will move on from the sexual assault scandal.

Bettman demanding a trade get done so that the news cycle will move on from the ******* scandal

[sa226]

At least with trade deadline, there's a deadline This fee like it could be over tonight, or 3 months from now.

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Trade for top 5 players at the most important position??

Since entering the league in 2015-2016 Eichel is 18th in points for all centers until the end of last season. Top 5 seems to be a stretch.

And if you want to remove the shortened season that he missed some with injury. He's 14th.

I've never seen the player everyone else seems to think he is.

EDIT- 14th for points per game as well.

[CedarMeter]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1456025324941086724

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by saillias

Thinking back to the Hamilton for Lindholm and Hanifin trade and how much I hated that at the time. It looked awful. We traded the best defenseman, added Adam Fox a prospect who's dominance in college was getting play, and Ferland who had played on our top line with Gaudreau and Monahan. Carolina seemed fine losing Hanifin and Lindholm had mediocre numbers.

Brad actually made several shrewd roster management decisions there. Hamilton wanted out, Fox wasn't signing, Ferland was still useful but concussion issues were piling up. It turned out to be a big win. That's how I rationalize that package. guys who want out and aren't re-signing. Also, TBull8 can take a bow if it goes through.

Ferland was also a year away from UFA.

[Azure]

To me what the Flames offer should be lesser each day that goes by because it is another day until Eichel can play.

Kinda ridiculous that it has taken this long.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

Since entering the league in 2015-2016 Eichel is 18th in points for all centers until the end of last season. Top 5 seems to be a stretch.

On buffalo...

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Valimaki, Zadorov, Gudbranson, Monahan, Lindholm, Hanifin etc etc.

Educated guess, Valimaki and hence why he has been sitting.

Edit: to counter my own educated guess, could be Zadorov too, showcasing him.

If you want to increase any value Zadorov has, you certainly don't play him.

[delayedreflex]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Zadorov is a first round pick

So is Gudbranson. Would be hilarious if either of those two were the "former first round pick" going back for Eichel.

I do think having Tkachuk being the centrepiece of the trade works best for Calgary in the long term, as I am not optimistic about him re-signing with Calgary. It's kind of hard to envision us keeping all of our centres, but if somehow we did it is obscene centre depth:
Eichel - Lindholm - Backlund - Monahan

Perhaps Lindholm goes back to wing or they try Monahan there when Eichel gets healthy, or someone gets moved, because I don't know if I've ever seen a centre lineup like that on any team before.

[Mass_nerder]

That sounds more like Buffalo's ask than Calgary's offer.
If it were the offer, it would be done already

[OutOfTheCube]

The only holdup for that would be the Tkachuk contract situation. You don't want to trade a player like Eichel away to watch the prize return piece walk away in a year and a half. That one needs an extension in place.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Conspiracy theory - did Calgary leak this to put pressure on Buffalo??

LOL