[PGT] Painful loss to the Ducks

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Dion

You are forgetting that McLovin and Saddlesore account for most of the Oilers scoring. Can't rely on 2 players if you hope to go anymore. Or the 5 Giordano's they have on defence.

Agreed but support players are always easier to find. Look at Derek Ryan score on us first game this year. He’s a good support player. Hyman is going to be a good suppprt player that feasts playing with that group. They get a couple top four dmen and they are looking dangerous. Those dmen will be expensive but they can mortgage their picks a bit considering the need to really exploit the players and window they have to win. Out of the two teams: Calgary and Edmonton. Who wins anything relevant first?

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Oilers are a team with 2 of the most dynamic offensive players in the league. They have competent management and are surrounding their team with good pieces slowly. They are gonna be in line for more meaningful hockey than we are any time soon. Mediocre results come from mediocre expectation. Sadly it’s a Calgary motif.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Dion

Management drove that team into the ground and they were gifted a generational player because of that. Nothing good about how that team is run.

Umm they were bad enough to get to the top of the draft lottery when there were two all world players to draft. Then they fired that management and hired Ken Holland. I think he knows a thing or two about running a team

[djsFlames]

^ Great comedy. It's nice to end the evening with a wholesome laugh.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Agreed but support players are always easier to find. Look at Derek Ryan score on us first game this year. He’s a good support player. Hyman is going to be a good suppprt player that feasts playing with that group. They get a couple top four dmen and they are looking dangerous. Those dmen will be expensive but they can mortgage their picks a bit considering the need to really exploit the players and window they have to win. Out of the two teams: Calgary and Edmonton. Who wins anything relevant first?

McDavid is at the age where drafting/developing players to surround him has passed. He's in his prime and yet he doesn't have much of a supporting cast due to bad trades and signings that has that team up against the cap with little wiggle room.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Ken Holland can’t hear you laughing like a hysterical white woman from the thirties because so many of his Stanley cup rings are plugging his ears.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Agreed but support players are always easier to find. Look at Derek Ryan score on us first game this year. He’s a good support player. Hyman is going to be a good suppprt player that feasts playing with that group. They get a couple top four dmen and they are looking dangerous. Those dmen will be expensive but they can mortgage their picks a bit considering the need to really exploit the players and window they have to win. Out of the two teams: Calgary and Edmonton. Who wins anything relevant first?

You really think the Oilers are gonna win with that roster? because they are capped out for 5 years.

your two big posts tonight Brady is better than Matt and the Oilers are awesome with competent management

No your not here just to stir up ####

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Ken Holland can’t hear you laughing like a hysterical white woman from the thirties because so many of his Stanley cup rings are plugging his ears.

Totally relevant to the Oilers in a cap league

Is he bringing back Lidstrom?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Umm they were bad enough to get to the top of the draft lottery when there were two all world players to draft. Then they fired that management and hired Ken Holland. I think he knows a thing or two about running a team

Wait, did you just use this line sincerely and not in jest?

It just gets better.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Dion

McDavid is at the age where drafting/developing players to surround him has passed. He's in his prime and yet he doesn't have much of a supporting cast due to bad trades and signings that has that team up against the cap with little wiggle room.

I’d disagree. They are gonna surprise the traditional oilers haters really wrong this year. They have more than we can offer. Sure they have mike smith but they have Bouchard looking to break with the group. They have broberg looking to make hay with them. And they have a decent dman in Darnell I’d say.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Agreed but support players are always easier to find. Look at Derek Ryan score on us first game this year. He’s a good support player. Hyman is going to be a good suppprt player that feasts playing with that group. They get a couple top four dmen and they are looking dangerous. Those dmen will be expensive but they can mortgage their picks a bit considering the need to really exploit the players and window they have to win. Out of the two teams: Calgary and Edmonton. Who wins anything relevant first?

It should be Edmonton but they aren’t the model franchise and I’m not even sure id put money on it

They were terrible for 10 years. Rebuilt 3 separate times in that span (Gagner/Cogliano era, RNH/Hall/Eberle era, now McDavid and Draisaitl), and the only reason they have a glimmer of hope is because the 4th first overall pick they got is the best player of his generation.

And they overpaid Nurse. Bridged Puljujarvi and Yamamoto who will need raises next year now. And traded for Keith who is bad and gave term to Ceci who is worse.

It’s two games but in terms of actually carrying the play the Flames at 0-1-1 have been better than the the Oilers at 2-0 so far this season.

[sa226]

Monahan is under going phase 2 of his development 5 years late. Not being joined at the hip to Gaudreau. I saw some good things there. But, if he remains with this team for the season, I think his game is going to be rebuilt.

Unfair comparison, but Andersson kind of remind me of Doughty sometimes.

Zadorov has been very not good, that pairing with Tanev, is clunky.

Valimaki looks like he has lost every ounce of his mojo and rookie swagger. He has zero confidence in his game.

Gundbradson has been a surprise for me. He looks not too bad at all.

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[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Umm they were bad enough to get to the top of the draft lottery when there were two all world players to draft. Then they fired that management and hired Ken Holland. I think he knows a thing or two about running a team

And the league brought in the draft lottery because of how management ran the Oilers.

How is that something to be proud of?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I’d disagree. They are gonna surprise the traditional oilers haters really wrong this year. They have more than we can offer. Sure they have mike smith but they have Bouchard looking to break with the group. They have broberg looking to make hay with them. And they have a decent dman in Darnell I’d say.

They allow 47 shots to the Flames but should be able to beat the Avs in a 7 game series lol

now all your hot takes are making sense


Also, might want to take a look how Holland ran the Wings in a cap system and why he isn't their GM and they have sucked for 5+ years

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by AC

I don't think Markstrom could have possibly got across and stacked the pads to stop the onetimer that was basically backdoor. In order to be in position with his pads stacked in time he would have had to slide across before the pass was made, leaving an empty net to shoot into.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1450315424395059203

I think you probably right about this. It's not as close as I thought it was at first glance. I still don't think Markstrom plays it correctly, his angles are wrong.

Philosophically, I think goalies don't use that move nearly enough, especially on cross-crease plays.

The 2-pad stack seals off the bottom 24"+ across a minimum of six and a half feet, depending on how you position your arms.

It makes so much more sense than turning yourself into a human fire blast.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Say what you will but since Holland has come in the team is looking more Well rounded.

Lidstrom wasn’t the only player he and his management drafted. That team was stacked and he had the illitch blessing to acquire top end talent to compliment them. Plus he was able to kee the pipeline strong to extend that teams window as long as it was until zetterberk and datsyuk fell apart.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Dion

And the league brought in the draft lottery because of how management ran the Oilers.

How is that something to be proud of?

They exploited something the league changed course on. Don’t be sour because we didn’t do it better/worse.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I’d disagree. They are gonna surprise the traditional oilers haters really wrong this year. They have more than we can offer. Sure they have mike smith but they have Bouchard looking to break with the group. They have broberg looking to make hay with them. And they have a decent dman in Darnell I’d say.

Playoffs are about tight checking and clamping down on a teams best players. Year after year McDavid has a great regular season only to be followed with playoff disappointments. You need scoring from your other lines and not just the top one.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

They exploited something the league changed course on. Don’t be sour because we didn’t do it better/worse.

The won a lottery with a 9% chance of winning...if they didn't they would still be the worst team in the league. Saying it was shrewd seems pretty trollish in a Flames PGT

now stop trolling about the Oilers

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

They exploited something the league changed course on. Don’t be sour because we didn’t do it better/worse.

Wait lol. What were you on Tkachuk about if you're a No Good fan?

Did you actually just pose as a Flames fan in a PGT trying to convince people that Tkachuk is a bum and needs to be shipped off?

You, sir, need a hobby. (a better one)