There are a lot of heads being planted in the sand at the moment. This kid is just an isolated wacko who was not politically motivated. We seem to be hearing a lot of that lately.
James von Brunn shot and killed a security guard at the National Holocaust Museum. He was a White Supremest and a birther, but this was an isolated incident and not politically motivated.
Byron Williams was arrested on his way to "start a revolution" by shooting employees at liberal nonprofits the Tides Foundation and the ACLU. He admitted that he was following through on information he got from Glenn Beck. But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
Nine members of a Christian anti-government Militia were arrested for plans where they would ambush and assassinate law enforcement personnel. They were hoping to start a war between the government and other militias. But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
Andrew Joseph Stack flew his small plane in the Austin, TX, IRS building because of issues he had with the government. He was an anti-tax Tea Party type and spoke of his disdain for the government. But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
Joshua Cartwright died in a gun battle with police after killing two sheriff deputies in Florida. The guy was a White Supremest didn't like the idea of a black man in the White House and was hoping to start a race war. But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
James G. Cummings was shot to death by his wife, preventing him from finishing and using a dirty bomb. She said he was very upset Obama was elected and wanted to make a statement. But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
Three Pittsburgh police officers were killed in plot by anti-government White Supremests. They were upset and afraid Obama would come and take their guns. So they set a trap and assassinated three law enforcement offices. But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
Gregory Lee Giusti was arrested and later convicted for threatening the life of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Giusti made 48 threats before being taken into custody for a death threat. But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
A package addressed to DHS Secretary, Janet Napolitano, blew up in a postal facility. Several other packages like this have been sent to Democrat representatives.But this was another isolated incident that was not politically motivated.
There's a pattern forming here. But it's an isolated pattern and not politically motivated.
That's some scary stuff. I wonder how many of these events don't happen if Obama is white. I try my best to avoid talking politics when I am down in the US for business but had an interesting chat with some colleagues in Chicago a few weeks back. They were convinced that a lot of the tea party movement and Obama backlash is due to his race not his policies. They don't think that it's a direct response but something indirectly they have a huge issue with. Something that Clinton, Carter or Gore would get away with. They think that figures like Beck, Rush and Palin indirectly feed this as well. Either way they had some fairly convincing points.
I'm pretty disgusted at the amount of American Politics that seem to be taking over in Canada too. 18 people get shot and it takes how long to start before people rush to the extreme right and left of this issue, instead of just feeling compassion for what these people just went through.
It was nothing personal as I stated. I wish I could have someone type things for me. I have thoughts that make a lot of sense to me but I just have a extremely hard time typing them.
Another thing that's working against me is the 4 hours of sleep in the last 40 hours... Gosh I'm tired and they are calling for 4-8 inches of snow down here tomorrow night.
Watch those thoughts and sleep, and try not to go shooting anybody...alright buddy?
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December 30, 2010:
Literate Letter: Dear Reader, Brainwash.
.....Dear Reader,..... I'm searching. Today! With every concern, my shot is now ready for aim. The hunt, a mighty thought of mine
December 30, 2010:
I now understand a certain word -- Cult
December 30, 2010:
I know how to graduate without a cult ceremony: Please! Don't think of murdering.
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January 8, 2010 (posted at about 5 a.m. MT):
Good-bye friends.
Dear friends,.....Please don't be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven't talked to one person who is literate
Dude was obviously batcrap crazy and completely delerious.
I'm pretty disgusted at the amount of American Politics that seem to be taking over in Canada too. 18 people get shot and it takes how long to start before people rush to the extreme right and left of this issue, instead of just feeling compassion for what these people just went through.
Dude, Our politics SUCK! nothing like Baby Boomers screwing our generation even more! No SS for me and they will put us so far in debt and they cant stop arguing on who's fault it is....
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They have not presented evidence at this time. Anything they find will be held back until his trial. Sheriff Dupnik didn't mince words on the political tenor and clearly pointed a finger at a certain segment of the population and media. That was quite a bit of information to released at that point in the investigation and clearly tipped his hand.
Sheriff Dupnik is a Democrat and judging by is comments a classless one. I've been glad to see the rest of the leadership within both parties chose to take the high road today and not play this for political points.
When something bad happens around the world we are always looked at to do something good.
The American government was selling weapons to Germany up until they were attacked by Japan. America has done a lot of good over the course of history but they are going down a slippery slope of partisanship that is tearing the country apart. All the while, China is building up into a superpower and will soon control the world the way America has for a long time. A bit scary if you ask me...
Sheriff Dupnik is a Democrat and judging by is comments a classless one. I've been glad to see the rest of the leadership within both parties chose to take the high road today and not play this for political points.
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Sheriff Dupnik is a Democrat and judging by is comments a classless one. I've been glad to see the rest of the leadership within both parties chose to take the high road today and not play this for political points.
OK I will bite...what was classless about what he said??
If you are talking about his call to end the political rhetoric that uses violence within its context repeatedly....he is right.
If you are in reference to his comments that Arizona border towns are a mecca for prejudice and bigotry...again he is bang on.
Hopefully his comments open the eyes of not only political leadership on both sides, but community leaders everywhere to start with calming down everyone of this BS. There are ways to discuss differences without the crap that is used in political campaigns and vis a vis, our leaders.
If this thing is going to get fixed, it has to start from the top and work its way on down. Radio show hosts, TV hosts, all of em need to scale back the fear and hate mongering and start working towards repairing a fractured country.
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And since the sitting President is a Democrat, I suspect the odds would be much higher for him at this time.
My point is that it doesnt matter who is with what party when they get picked off by a madman...as is the case here. Clearly.
And after the dust settles on this, and the blame starts getting slung around, there is a very good chance that Sarah Palin will dissapear into the sunset once and for all. You can probably assume her team is already in damage control mode.
That is potentially the ONLY possible positive thing that could come of this. I don't follow US politics enough to side with either party. But the fact that ignoramus could possibly end up running the worlds most powerful country is truly frightening.
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You can probably assume her team is already in damage control mode.
No need to assume, it's already happening (regardless if this murderer was motivated by her rhetoric or not). Her tweet encouraging conservatives to "RELOAD!" was purged from her Twitter feed earlier today.
This is how it originally appeared, for anyone wondering:
Sheriff Dupnik is a Democrat and judging by is comments a classless one. I've been glad to see the rest of the leadership within both parties chose to take the high road today and not play this for political points.
I was wondering where his puzzling rant came from since it didn't seem to actually have anything to do with anything we knew about the young shooter or his ramblings to that moment and since.
But apparently the sheriff and the congresswoman were quite close and he was prominent in her campaign for election as well.
Obviously he's very wrought and because of those personal and political ties appears unable to add an impersonal and professional viewpoint to an already charged and partisan atmosphere.
Frankly, be should probably remove himself from involvement in the case.
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We are not talking about two sides of the same coin here.
I must be missing something.
Of course there could be odds on ONLY Obama in such a situation...because he is the ONLY President that could be shot....because he is currently the ONLY President.
What does that have to do with him being a Democrat?
OK I will bite...what was classless about what he said??
If you are talking about his call to end the political rhetoric that uses violence within its context repeatedly....he is right.
If you are in reference to his comments that Arizona border towns are a mecca for prejudice and bigotry...again he is bang on.
Hopefully his comments open the eyes of not only political leadership on both sides, but community leaders everywhere to start with calming down everyone of this BS. There are ways to discuss differences without the crap that is used in political campaigns and vis a vis, our leaders.
If this thing is going to get fixed, it has to start from the top and work its way on down. Radio show hosts, TV hosts, all of em need to scale back the fear and hate mongering and start working towards repairing a fractured country.
It was classless to imply that this nut was motivated by any political issue without evidence. A person in his position should have stuck to the facts of the case.
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It was classless to imply that this nut was motivated by any political issue without evidence. A person in his position should have stuck to the facts of the case.
Well the facts are that a very good friend of his is laying in a hospital fighting for her life. Whether or not the shooting was politically motivated we may never know, but it ceratinly doesnt detract from his message, and certainly doesn't indicate a lack of "class". Though as Cow points out, he should likely remove himself from the spotlight if for no other reason than to make sure everything is above board when they prosecute this scumbucket.
This day was almost becoming inevitable IMO. And I would be saying the exact same thing had it happened 2 years ago and George W. was on the receiving end of a bullet.
