Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Geraldsh]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

So your plan would be for the government to expropriate the existing private schools (and pay off the non profits that own those buikdings) and then increase the funding those students receive to the full amount they give to public schools vs the lower amount private schools get?

And you're thinking this will save money?

To be fair, I didn’t know about the specialized private schools that work with special needs. Still think they should be under the public school banner and funded 100% by the government.
Private schools that cater to the well off that just want a better learning experience should be 100% privately funded.

This is not a time to be saving money - it’s not an expense, it’s an investment.

[CactusJack]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Funding increases were 1998 to 60% and 2008 to 70%.

Thanks, I honestly had no idea that’s when it went up but still think it should be zero in my opinion. I’ll definitely be signing the new petition to hopefully have it removed and I have absolutely no problem with having my tax dollars properly funding public education. It’s the single greatest investment we can make in our society.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by CactusJack

Thanks, I honestly had no idea that’s when it went up but still think it should be zero in my opinion.

And that increase to 60% wasn't some massive jump either as it went from 50% to 60%.

[you&me]

I don't think the answer is to pit public against charter and private schools. As someone said earlier, the real problem isn't affordability; it's adequate funding... we have the ####ing money, the UCP just chooses instead to flush it down the drain.

Alberta Ed has an annual operating budget of nearly $10B... The $300mm that goes toward private schools (38k students * $11,464 per student * .70) is a literal drop in the bucket.

Personally, I think that all students should be funded equally and that funding should follow the child to whatever school they / their parents choose, but that's surely not a popular opinion around here. But I can't help but shake my head at some comments made along the lines of "my taxes shouldn't support private schools", as-if conveniently forgetting that parents at private schools pay taxes too.

Adequately fund all students, pay the teachers what they deserve and the rest is just noise.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by you&me

I don't think the answer is to pit public against charter and private schools. As someone said earlier, the real problem isn't affordability; it's adequate funding... we have the ####ing money, the UCP just chooses instead to flush it down the drain.

Alberta Ed has an annual operating budget of nearly $10B... The $300mm that goes toward private schools (38k students * $11,464 per student * .70) is a literal drop in the bucket.

Personally, I think that all students should be funded equally and that funding should follow the child to whatever school they / their parents choose, but that's surely not a popular opinion around here. But I can't help but shake my head at some comments made along the lines of "my taxes shouldn't support private schools", as-if conveniently forgetting that parents at private schools pay taxes too.

Adequately fund all students, pay the teachers what they deserve and the rest is just noise.

I agree. It's sad to see people pushing public versus private. Unreal.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by CactusJack

Thanks, I honestly had no idea that’s when it went up but still think it should be zero in my opinion. I’ll definitely be signing the new petition to hopefully have it removed and I have absolutely no problem with having my tax dollars properly funding public education. It’s the single greatest investment we can make in our society.

Should be public and private. It's all education.

[Looch City]

Rich people's education matters!

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by CFO

Should be public and private. It's all education.

Like health care?

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Like health care?

Just imagine a world where is doesn’t take 18 months for a knee replacement.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Rich people's education matters!

That’s why they pay extra for it.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by you&me

I don't think the answer is to pit public against charter and private schools. As someone said earlier, the real problem isn't affordability; it's adequate funding... we have the ####ing money, the UCP just chooses instead to flush it down the drain.

Alberta Ed has an annual operating budget of nearly $10B... The $300mm that goes toward private schools (38k students * $11,464 per student * .70) is a literal drop in the bucket.

Personally, I think that all students should be funded equally and that funding should follow the child to whatever school they / their parents choose, but that's surely not a popular opinion around here. But I can't help but shake my head at some comments made along the lines of "my taxes shouldn't support private schools", as-if conveniently forgetting that parents at private schools pay taxes too.

Adequately fund all students, pay the teachers what they deserve and the rest is just noise.

The reason we have public ed is for public benefit. Having private ed takes high quality students out of public Ed. Having well resourced parents and students in schools raises all boats. It also creates more support for the public system when people with more access to power are involved in the system.

The public does not benefit from a person going off into the public system. It actively harms the public system. So why should the public pay for a system that makes the public system worse?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Just imagine a world where is doesn’t take 18 months for a knee replacement.

We could easily live in that world in a public system.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Genuine question, how is this better for the public education system? Where is the extra 30% per student going to come from for private school students returning to public education? What about capex for facilities and other operational costs that come with having an influx of new students in the public system?

From the funding that no longer goes to the rich kids remaining in private schools.