CP Mafia 4 - The Unknown Host - Game Over!

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by GGG

Starseed do you remember offhand who were pushing the Lego switched out so you afe scum plan?

Peanut and Oling, with a hint of bizaro.

Originally Posted by Peanut

I don't like the sub in for Lego (sorry starseed, you know I love you). If Lego was town, why wouldn't he just have continued to participate as he was available. Maybe the demands of being scum were too much for his time and he felt obligated to get a sub now that some people are casting suspicion his way. The sub-in feels scummy to me. Also I'm surprised that Lego didn't mention it in the thread at all before leaving. I was originally more suspicious of PE, but this sub in has swung me over to the Lego-as-scum side.

Vote: Starseed

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Vote: Starseed

I saw this play out last time to the mafia's benefit.

I feel there's an added responsibility playing with a team, added pressure to keep active than there would be as just a townie. Lego Man may have real world commitments (obviously) but based on some of his longer posts he's been keeping up and actively looking for host...or we're lead to believe.

If he was having someone ghost write his posts, it may explain why XXX slipped through the cracks as they collaborated in the host thread.

Regardless of the switch, I've made my suspicion for Lego Man known before.

I post this:

Originally Posted by squiggs96

So I go on multiple crusades to go after Lego and get zero support. Zero. Starseed subs in and now you m-effers want to lynch him. Ouch.

and bizaro replies with:

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I think saying you got no support probably a bit overstated, you got no votes, but Lego has always been on my list, but never a top suspect. I suspect that's true for others. I will quote some of my "suspicious of Lego posts" below. The common theme is I think he's suspicious but there's someone else I think is more suspicous. Which is probably not a bad place for him to be if he's scum.

I think starseed subbing in for him is just one more confirmation that he could be scum who doesn't have enough time to play effectively as scum, and keep up with the scum thread as well. As previously mentioned, the time difference could have made it harder for them to coordinate. I'm not going to switch my vote from party to starseed just yet, but I'm definitely considering it.

One final thought, if starseed has taken over a mafia position, he's dangerous. I remember how he played in the parker/barrow double mafia game, and he was deadly as a mafia member.

[GGG]

Pux what are you thinking right now.

Everyone needs to post their two turned and two scum before we start voting.

[GGG]

Peanut if you are town defend yourself. Make a case for someone

[squiggs96]

At first I was just going to slot everyone into host, turned, town, undecided, but it seems more complicated that that. Here is my thought process.

Including myself, the three people who are most town to me are squiggs96, GGG and Pux. That leaves six people. Two are definitely hosts. One is definitely turned. Another one is likely turned. Two are definitely town. I'll assume for this scenario that there are two town, two hosts and two turned.

Of the remaining six, I think bizaro is most likely to be a host. Of the remaining five I think HG is most likely town for his crusade against mrk the entire game, and I think Peanut is most likely turned for her switch in stance on Oling. This leaves starseed, PE and diss. This is where I really struggle to put each person somewhere. I can make cases for each of them in each category.

I'm going to put PE as the other turned. As early as Day 6 he jumped on the wagon that I was defending Seb. His post today reminded me of Oling and mrk, although I contributed to that by misreading his list. If I had to guess on the final placements I'd put dissentowner as the host and starseed as the town. This is mostly because nobody jumped on Peanut's vote of him. It looks like Peanut will be lynched and her dying vote is on diss.

After the above thought process my lists are:

Town (5): squiggs96, GGG, Puxlut, HockeyGuy15, starseed
Host (2): bizaro86, dissentowner
Turned (2): Peanut, Party Elephant

[dissentowner]

If I was a host why would I be on board with following GGG's ideas on who we should vote for and why would I vote for peanut?

[GGG]

How do party and peanut turned fit into the available nights to be turned?

One is night 5/6 the other just today?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If I was a host why would I be on board with following GGG's ideas on who we should vote for and why would I vote for peanut?

Because peanuts not scum and if I picked scum again today you could have just said well the agent could be turned so we should think before we vote.

You've deflected this once already but what is your current list.

[starseed]

Not a lot of time to respond, but squiggs list of turned is my list of host. I think that list makes him a turned. Not sure if that fits with gggs investigations. How did diss vote day 3 and 4?

[Hockeyguy15]

Town I have: GGG, Puxlut, starseed, Squiggs and myself.

Infected I think are PE and Peanut.

Hosts I think are Diss and Bizaro.

[starseed]

Really? Why diss?

[Hockeyguy15]

I put Diss as a host over PE because PE was the first to mysteriously drop his push on me, and later the same day Diss did the same thing. I think he was piggybacking off of what PE was doing since no one really pushed PE when he did it.

[starseed]

Who did hg push for yesterday? Squiggs wasn't turned yesterday.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I put Diss as a host over PE because PE was the first to mysteriously drop his push on me, and later the same day Diss did the same thing. I think he was piggybacking off of what PE was doing since no one really pushed PE when he did it.

What day was this? I'll read over when I get home.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by starseed

What day was this? I'll read over when I get home.

Right about when you came in, post 1403 for PE and 1433 for Diss.

Sorry I tried to link them but it's not working on my phone.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Vote Count

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 5 votes to deadline lynch.


Voted:
Hockeyguy15 (4): Party Elephant, mrkajz44, dissentowner, Puxlut
East Coast Flame (4): GGG, SebC, Oling_Roachinen, bizaro86
mrkajz44 (4): devo22, Hockeyguy15, squiggs96, Timbo
Timbo (1): Peanut
Party Elephant (1): Lego Man
bizaro86 (1): East Coast Flame

The deadline is Friday, June 5th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.

This is an interesting day 3 vote count

Voted:
Hockeyguy15 (4): Party Elephant, mrkajz44, dissentowner,
East Coast Flame (4): bizaro86
mrkajz44 (4): Hockeyguy15
Timbo (1): Peanut
Party Elephant (1): Lego Man
bizaro86 (1): East Coast Flame

Known town plus squiggs removed,

In the first 4 ECF votes was there no scum? If HG or Diss is scum then peanut has to be scum as no way their are two of 4 scum on themselves.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by starseed

Who did hg push for yesterday? Squiggs wasn't turned yesterday.

I wanted Mrkajz gone yesterday.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Is it a coincidence that the last 3 people killed voted for mrkajz?

Timbo and devo were suspicious of him, but not super aggressive in trying to get him lynched and they are both dead. Seb voted for him, and ends up being turned.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

GGG, thoughts on Mrkajz? On Day 4 the only people left that voted for him are you, me, Bizaro, and starseed.

You're town, that leaves 3 other people. How likely is it that Mrkajz is town and at least 2 of me, Bizaro, and starseed are hosts?

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Because if Mrkajz was town and starseed is a host then you would likely have 2 hosts voting for Mrkajz.

I really think Mrkajz is a host, so I am thinking the other 2 hosts voted for starseed.

After mrkraftya$$ got booted, I've lost all trust in my instincts. As I thought he was town. So I'm not sure how I feel about people.
HG was under my skin at the beginning and all of a sudden, he chilled out and went under my radar. So is that town turned with spore or just someone that's changed their strategy.
SS: just not playing with the same intensity as last game. Either not as much into it or playing for a different side this time
Peanut: Not alot of great input. But really... neither have I. Maybe a girl thing?
Biz-lots of votes against known town. Just not a fan of his voting history.
Party-again, been voting alot of townies until mrkookie and he was #3 to vote him out. Scum knew he was going to get voted out eventually, so vote with us to look good?
Dis-sooooooo under the radar, it scares me. What am I missing?
GGG did good last time, so I'm willing to go what ever way he goes. I'm just feeling really useless right now....Except for suggestive pics:

NSFW!

Are you happy to see me? Or that a spore in your pants?

[GGG]

HG is not turned unless he turned last night

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Lego Man

unvote

vote: mrkajz44

Starseed is 100% town.

This is the 5 vote against mrkajz with both ECF and HG sitting at 4.