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Flash Walken · 08-31-2018, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Those guys are all secondary pieces.

5 picks in the 1st round in the last 2 years.

Toonage · 08-31-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

There's an argument to be made for having Rittich and Gillies split time here in North America along with the prospects, to decide who wins the backup role. It would be easy to send some PTO schlub like Mason off to China where he probably just munches popcorn.

Good point, as its pretty likely Smith starts both games in China with the 4 day break between them.

dammage79 · 08-31-2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Saqe

They're missing a #1C, #1D and their #1 goalie is at the end of road. I'd say they're pretty far away.

Isnt Shattenkirk a #1 D?
By the time Lunqvist hangs em up Shestyorkin will be the heir apparent. That guy is lighting the KHL en fuego. Well maybe not en fuego, but hes doing really well.

Yeah they do need a #1c. But dare I say that would be an ideal landing spot for Seguin. 2 major UFAs hitting the Rangers in short order.

CliffFletcher · 08-31-2018, 10:56 AM

For a team that only started their rebuild last season, the Rangers have a very good stable of young players and prospects. Far better than most teams (including the Flames) have when they decide to tear down the roster. Panarin's young enough that he can be part of rebuilt Rangers team in 2-4 years. I'm just surprised that the Sabres weren't on his list, as Buffalo is usually an attractive destination for Russians.

868904 · 08-31-2018, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Lehtonen last year had 37 starts, 15-14 record and a .912. One year one million for him would be ideal after he earned it off a PTO. Sets a bar for Rittich and Gillies to hurdle over to earn the back up spot. I'd do it. If he can give 30-37 starts and put up an over .500 record the Flames would be in great shape.

I think Tre has his eyes closely on the Leafs goalie situation and will likely pick up one of Sparks, Mcbackup or Pickard off waivers.

I'm thinking that will be the only goalie move.

mrdonkey · 08-31-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 868904

I think Tre has his eyes closely on the Leafs goalie situation and will likely pick up one of Sparks, Mcbackup or Pickard off waivers.

I'm thinking that will be the only goalie move.

Sparks and Pickard are no better or more proven than the options we already have, and we've been there and done that with McBackup - no thank you.

Otto-matic · 08-31-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanley

Right...

The Flames need some bodies to play in the first couple preseason games. They have a split squad game vs the Oilers IIRC that they need to ice a roster for. We probably won't see any of the big name players until near the end of the preseason.

Guaranteed the entire 18/19 Roster will be in China.

bubbsy · 08-31-2018, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

5 picks in the 1st round in the last 2 years.

We had a lot of 1st and 2nd rounders in those Monahan and Bennett drafts too.... Few actually panned out as we hoped.

I hate the rangers.... I don't even know why.

Saqe · 08-31-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Isnt Shattenkirk a #1 D?
By the time Lunqvist hangs em up Shestyorkin will be the heir apparent. That guy is lighting the KHL en fuego. Well maybe not en fuego, but hes doing really well.

Yeah they do need a #1c. But dare I say that would be an ideal landing spot for Seguin. 2 major UFAs hitting the Rangers in short order.

I personally wouldn't consider Shattenkirk a 1D, I don't think he ever was that in St. Louis either.

The foundation is good but getting a 1C, 1D, 1G are the worst problems to solve. Although NY as a destination is appealing to almost all players so, yeah they could land someone like Seguin through UFA.

SportsJunky · 08-31-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

I hate the rangers.... I don't even know why.

It’s Ron Duguay’s hair. It was beautiful. I hated him for it.

Just kiddin’. Love ya Dugs.

sureLoss · 08-31-2018, 01:04 PM

I think there is a significant level of trust by management in Gillies and Rittich.

If there wasn't they probably would have signed a free agent backup or traded for one by now, instead of hoping a backup becomes available via waivers or trade before the season starts.

The only way they look at acquiring a backup goalie after training camp is:
a) management doesn't like what they see in camp
b) injury
c) a young goaltender that they believe has #1 starter potential in the next year or two becomes available

Strange Brew · 08-31-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think there is a significant level of trust by management in Gillies and Rittich.

If there wasn't they probably would have signed a free agent backup or traded for one by now, instead of hoping a backup becomes available via waivers or trade before the season starts.

The only way they look at acquiring a backup goalie after training camp is:
a) management doesn't like what they see in camp
b) injury
c) a young goaltender that they believe has #1 starter potential in the next year or two becomes available

How much trust do they have if a bad camp is enough to make a trade for a goalie? I suspect Treliving has his finger on the trigger of a goalie trade at all times but is hoping the current situation will work for this year at least.

Erick Estrada · 08-31-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think there is a significant level of trust by management in Gillies and Rittich.

If there wasn't they probably would have signed a free agent backup or traded for one by now, instead of hoping a backup becomes available via waivers or trade before the season starts.

The only way they look at acquiring a backup goalie after training camp is:
a) management doesn't like what they see in camp
b) injury
c) a young goaltender that they believe has #1 starter potential in the next year or two becomes available

That's not a plan at all (unless you are the Oilers) which leads me to believe management has faith in the two goaltenders. In the case of Gillies they really have to because they have a lot of time invested in him.

The Yen Man · 08-31-2018, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

We had a lot of 1st and 2nd rounders in those Monahan and Bennett drafts too.... Few actually panned out as we hoped.

I hate the rangers.... I don't even know why.

I know the reason why I hate the Rangers. They have an inherent geographical advantage in attracting free agents that Calgary will never have. It's not their fault, but I hate them for it nonetheless.

sureLoss · 08-31-2018, 03:46 PM

https://twitter.com/user/status/1035638599633580035

sureLoss · 08-31-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

How much trust do they have if a bad camp is enough to make a trade for a goalie? I suspect Treliving has his finger on the trigger of a goalie trade at all times but is hoping the current situation will work for this year at least.

Enough that even knowing Mike Smith might go down with injury he passed on more established goaltenders in free agency and has fewer assets than most teams to fill holes via trade. I think it would take a spectacularly bad camp for Treliving's confidence to be shaken by them.

The organization's biggest weakness in both short term and long term is goaltending and he is willing to gamble on Rittich and Gillies.

sureLoss · 08-31-2018, 04:56 PM

Interesting saga going on with Pacioretty and the Habs.

If you haven't been following it, some Habs media has been claiming that Pacioretty had requested a trade out of Montreal many times over the years. One journalist claimed it was confirmed by 3 sources.

His agent has denied this and has gone as for to even confirm the Habs had a Pacioretty trade to the Kings completed conditional upon Pacioretty agreeing to a contract extension. (which he didn't).

Now his agent is claiming the Habs are the ones planting stories about Pacioretty wanting out of Montreal.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1035645855498477568

David Struch · 09-01-2018, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

what is the ####ing obsession with Nylander?

Perhaps righting a past wrong from the 2014 Entry Draft?

The Flames would be in a lot better shape had they made the obvious choice of taking Michael "the Swedish Gretzky" Nylander's son instead of Sam Bennett.

Enoch Root · 09-01-2018, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by David Struch

Perhaps righting a past wrong from the 2014 Entry Draft?

The Flames would be in a lot better shape had they made the obvious choice of taking Michael "the Swedish Gretzky" Nylander's son instead of Sam Bennett.

In hindsight, maybe. That does not, in any way, justify the obsession with trading for him.

David Struch · 09-01-2018, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

In hindsight, maybe. That does not, in any way, justify the obsession with trading for him.

I'm sure us Flames fans would love some redemption from past dealing with the Leafs too, two of the worst trades in Calgary's history... Leeman & Phaneuf deals.