2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[dammage79]

Don't see the issue. Anderssons only going to extend with a team when he wants to, that's it, that's all.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Enough with the no trade clauses. This organization has given them out like candy in the past and we need to stop.

It’s a league wide issue. The players would never let it happen but I’d love some kind of team limit on ntcs. Would make the league a lot more fluid for trades.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Maybe in February or even in September... But on June 29th the reactions are a bit ridiculous.

270ish days to the trade deadline. People who didn’t even listen to the podcast are being absurd lol.

Here’s what he actually said:

He doesn't have a no-trade clause, but he has a lot of power. I think Vegas took a big run at him last week, but couldn't get it done.

And I think there was a team that did think they were going to get something done, but Andersson wouldn't extend at this time. So, that is the power that a player like Andersson has. I don't think Vegas could do enough to get the player, but I do think there were others, and they just couldn't get the commitment he would sign.

So, when Craig Conroy comes out and says, Andersson could start with us next year, I think it's for that reason. And the thing that the Flames will benefit from about this is that Andersson is going to want to have a big year. He wants to hit the big paydays, so he's got to have a big year.

So, I still think Calgary can see the benefit to that. And the second thing is, and this is another manager told me this, right now, Andersson may only want to go where he's going to sign or wants to sign.

Also mentioned that Dobson would also sign with two teams, and yet people seemed pretty happy over that return.

I’m still not sure how this is any different than last week. Vegas didn’t meet the ask, another team “met” it but wouldn’t make the deal if Andersson wouldn’t sign, so wasn’t willing to trade for him.

At no point during this process has the fact that an extension carries value been in question. Did people think he’d just sign anywhere?

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

I don’t think no trade is a factor here. He could have zero protection and he could still say no to extending.

To take that a step further, I’m not sure why a player would ever agree to an extension before a trade
For example
A player with an extension is worth the acquiring teams best player
Vs
A player without an extension is worth the acquiring teams second string goalie
Why would the player do anything to make their new team worse?

[kehatch]

Its not a surprise that Andersson doesn't want to sign an extension after a down year. Its not a surprise that the Flames want the full trade value of a 27 year old top tier D. Its not a surprise that teams don't want to pay full value without an extension in place, or agree to his extension demands after a down year.

Its a predictable cycle when you can't commit to a direction. Are we rebuilding or are we trying to win? We are trying to do both. So we hold onto assets too long then we fail to extend them.

Andersson's biggest trade value was his budget friendly contract. The value of that goes down substantially the longer you wait. This is a trade that should have been done a year ago.

[traptor]

This is why the Flames should start getting ahead of these deals.




We could of traded rasmus retained with 2-3 years left on his deal and got a haul.


Now is the time to start exploring deals for guys like coleman, with a little term left.



Why do we always have to be so reactive instead of being strategic.

[Toonage]

We were told that having an additional year of Ras even at salary retained had some value. Apparently it doesn't. Only an extension. Fine. But then if he's only willing to sign with a few teams we basically have the Hanifin deal again.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

To take that a step further, I’m not sure why a player would ever agree to an extension before a trade
For example
A player with an extension is worth the acquiring teams best player
Vs
A player without an extension is worth the acquiring teams second string goalie
Why would the player do anything to make their new team worse?

The only reasons are (a) he really likes that team and wants to play there (Stone/Vegas) or (b) the other team has met a term/price he doesn’t think he can get on the open market. 8 years is a big deal.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by traptor

This is why the Flames should start getting ahead of these deals.




We could of traded rasmus retained with 2-3 years left on his deal and got a haul.


Now is the time to start exploring deals for guys like coleman, with a little term left.

Now it’s too late if you don’t trade a guy halfway through his contract? Ridiculous.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by flambers

Not sure that's correct, Andersson in this situations sounds like its all about the money,

Have a really good year, sign as a UFA, get the big contract.

That's the path,

The contract lengths changing is correct. A sign and trade now could get Andersson an 8 year contract. If he takes this current contract to free-agency after July 1, 2026, the max term he can sign with a new team is 6 years.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

To take that a step further, I’m not sure why a player would ever agree to an extension before a trade
For example
A player with an extension is worth the acquiring teams best player
Vs
A player without an extension is worth the acquiring teams second string goalie
Why would the player do anything to make their new team worse?

So this is where the futures component kicks in.

Team acquires anderssson for futures, they can expect to be strong short term as they haven’t weakened roster.

Subtract from the current roster to bring in Andersson and you are weaker.

So think we can see where this is going.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Toonage

We were told that having an additional year of Ras even at salary retained had some value. Apparently it doesn't. Only an extension. Fine. But then if he's only willing to sign with a few teams we basically have the Hanifin deal again.

The Flames have a little more of a pressure point with Andersson. If this goes into the season then he is losing his ability to get an 8th year altogether and could be risking the 7th as well.

[Flames_F.T.W]

I appreciate everyone's optimism that this could still work out well for us (and hopefully it does) but I'm not holding my breath. I'm not a fan of going into this season with Andersson still on the roster (I get that it might be the best option to wait and be patient) but there are too many ways this can blow up in our face. What if the Flames and Anderson stumble out of the gate and he looks terrible? Or what if he gets a serious injury (he plays heavy minutes). And does anyone actually beleive if we find ourselves in a playoff spot that management/ownership will choose asset management over playoff revenue and deal Andersson instead of losing him for nothing in free agency?

Hopefully it gets sorted out this summer, but I think people overreacting isn't crazy. This could potentially suck

[kyuss275]

The other problem now is he knows for the moment that Vegas will do an extension with him. If the other couple teams he is interested in aren’t interested, he has no reason to sign an extension with anybody but Vegas. It’s not Andersons problem about the return the flames will get .

[Enoch Root]

Some people are under the impression that Andersson doesn't want to sign an extension, and wants to test fere agency. I don't see that as what's happening at all. He can get 8 years if he signs now. He can only get 6 if he walks (which isn't happening, from either side).

The issue here, I believe, is that he hasn't liked the numbers being thrown around yet. He and his agent will have an idea of what they're worth, and so far he isn't seeing it. That makes him think he should wait - if he can get off to a good start to the season, contract offers will look a lot better. That makes sense for him.

Having said all that, if an offer comes in over the summer that looks more appealing to him, then it seems doubtless that he would sign, and the deal would get consumated.

Relax, people.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W

I appreciate everyone's optimism that this could still work out well for us (and hopefully it does) but I'm not holding my breath. I'm not a fan of going into this season with Andersson still on the roster (I get that it might be the best option to wait and be patient) but there are too many ways this can blow up in our face. What if the Flames and Anderson stumble out of the gate and he looks terrible? Or what if he gets a serious injury (he plays heavy minutes). And does anyone actually beleive if we find ourselves in a playoff spot that management/ownership will choose asset management over playoff revenue and deal Andersson instead of losing him for nothing in free agency?

Hopefully it gets sorted out this summer, but I think people overreacting isn't crazy. This could potentially suck

Like finishing the year on a broken foot? Tell me that wouldn't impact a potential return? I agree.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W

Or what if he gets a serious injury (he plays heavy minutes). And does anyone actually beleive if we find ourselves in a playoff spot that management/ownership will choose asset management over playoff revenue and deal Andersson instead of losing him for nothing in free agency?

All those reasons are why Andersson is taking a big gamble if he doesn’t play ball with teams this summer. I can’t see it dragging from his end. The Flames could decide to wait because they missed their window on getting the value they wanted but that’s a a big risk for Andersson.

[Enoch Root]

And if he gets injured, then it is probably best for the Flames, and for Andersson, to sign a short, one or two year deal, to reset the whole process.

[iloveicedhockey]

Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W

While true, I think Flames fans are entitled to a little concern given how the Hanifin situation played out

I totally understand. The market will be what it will be and we usually suffer because of that! It's Andersson's right to not agree to sign his next deal, just as it's our right to trade him to anyone not on his NTC for the coming season. You'd like to think we reach a compromise somewhere in the middle.

Only difference I see now is that teams will be giving us a first rounder in a stronger draft.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Now it’s too late if you don’t trade a guy halfway through his contract? Ridiculous.

The idea of maximizing value based on Andersson's current contract does seem to have passed.

Conroy has an ask, teams are only willing to meet that asking price if Andersson is willing to extend - and so far Andersson is not willing to extend with teams willing to meet the asking price.

So, either:

1. Conroy reduces the ask to bring more teams into the conversation
2. Andersson decides he's open to sign with more teams

Conroy can't bank on #2 happening, and neither can we as fans because Andersson is making a major life decision for his family, and he's earned that right.

This is very similar to how the Hanifin situation unfolded other than the fact that Conroy and Andersson seemingly share the stance that an extension won't come, which took until like January in-season with Hanifin. I'd expect Conroy's ask will shift here in the Summer, because I imagine he learned that patience did not help the Hanifin situation...unless Conroy takes Andersson's in-season impact as holding value above the delta between what he's asking now vs. what he could actually get in a trade, at which point we'll go into the season with Andersson and likely the return goes the way Hanifin's did, but Conroy will have extracted that extra value through in-season performance/impact.

There's no real space for negativity here because Conroy isn't joking when he says both sides are happy to come back together in October and play hockey.


I'd expect a lot of fans, myself included, think that path is bad and short sighted - and that's fair, but it is what it is.