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Old 11-18-2018, 08:01 PM   #2661
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McDiver just got called for diving! haha

Oiler fans are trying to justify it as some heroic protest against the unfairness of the NHL for not calling a penalty every time McIdiot is touched.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:02 PM   #2662
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LOL. My wife just laughed at Principe's hair.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:02 PM   #2663
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Lucic buyout
Year/Cap hit
2019-20 $3,625,000
2020-21 $5,625,000
2021-22 $4,125,000
2022-23 $5,625,000
2023-24 $625,000
2024-25 $625,000
2025-26 $625,000
2026-27 $625,000
TOTAL $21,500,000

Haha! Stupid Oilers.
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Yeah that's not a good contract to buy out, though they might just want him away from the team eventually and bite the bullet - it's at the point where his production is below an AHL replacement given the quality of ice time he gets and he takes a ton of bad penalties.


Only really benefits them significantly in year one and they still end up with 21.5 mil of the 24 mil hitting them... ouch.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:06 PM   #2665
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Vegas scores again. Edmonton sucks. The universe is righting itself.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:07 PM   #2666
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5 goals on 19 shots against Talbot.
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Yeah that's not a good contract to buy out, though they might just want him away from the team eventually and bite the bullet - it's at the point where his production is below an AHL replacement given the quality of ice time he gets and he takes a ton of bad penalties.


Only really benefits them significantly in year one and they still end up with 21.5 mil of the 24 mil hitting them... ouch.




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Old 11-18-2018, 08:10 PM   #2668
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God I love how bad they are. Another loss incoming tonight. Wonder when they panic and trade RNH or pool party


Ahhhahaha 6-2 now!
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:11 PM   #2669
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6-2 lol
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:12 PM   #2670
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Hahahahaha, Now this is a GG coached team
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:13 PM   #2671
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If anyone wants to enjoy this more i suggest reading their boards when they were up 2-0 yesterday holy #### was it insufferable. now here we hare 24 hours later and oh what has changed. I ####ing love it
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:13 PM   #2672
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Lucic Buyout on July 15, 2019
Saves 2.375 in 19-20
Saves 0.375 in 20-21
Saves 1.875 in 21-22
Saves 0.375 in 22-23
Adds 0.675 for 23-24–> 26-27
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You’d be an idiot to sign him to this deal. You’d be an idiot not to buy him out of it. That’s how bad he is.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:19 PM   #2673
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Have to think Oilers are exhausted after playing the type of game Calgary put them through last night. Maybe that was part of the plan all along.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:21 PM   #2674
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Oilers fans speculate Gulutzan will be the guy that takes over. How sweet would that be especially with Q, AV, and Sutter as potential options.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:22 PM   #2675
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Have you actually looked at the contract structure? It’s setup for a buyout after this season.

Buyout saves nearly 2.5m next season and only adds 600k for 4 years following the contract expiration.

That isn’t buyout proof.

Anyway, E=NG regardless and my original point that the oilers won’t be able to hide behind their goons stands. Sooner or later Draisaitl is going to have to fight his own battles.
Yeah I have. Have you.
Cap hits of
$3,625,000 2019/20
$5,625,000. 2020/21
$4,125,000. 2021/22
$5,625,000. 2022/23

+ plus another 4 years of $650,000

Whoppeee they save $2,375,000, $375,000 $1,875,000, $375,000,
Two of those savings can’t even buy you ANY player in the league because they’re not even the league minimum.

That’s a grand total of $5,000,000 off $24,000,000 or 16% when typically contracts without massive signing bonuses is 1/2 (50%) the cap twice the term.

16% isn’t even half of 50%. They still pay 86% of the cap hit.

Plus... once the $650,000 starts kicking in they save a grand total of $2,500,000 against the cap, so they still get twice the term & an 8% discount on everything rather than 50%

HUGE SAVINGS!!

So for one year they get $2,375,000 relief & are cratered for the rest of the contract.

If you think that isn’t buyout proof, then please never ever negotiate contracts for the Flames.

I could care less if he plays for the Oilers or not he’s fossilized junk.
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You’d be an idiot to sign him to this deal. You’d be an idiot not to buy him out of it. That’s how bad he is.
You need to look at how much they still pay him, not how much they save.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:23 PM   #2677
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Oilers fans speculate Gulutzan will be the guy that takes over. How sweet would that be especially with Q, AV, and Sutter as potential options.
on there forum they're posting that Eakins/Gulutzan gif as a positive message of change
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:36 PM   #2678
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You need to look at how much they still pay him, not how much they save.
When you have a negative value on ice contributor, the savings are all that matter. As has bee posted, the cap savings are significant.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:38 PM   #2679
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Quenville is still owed 11 Million by the Hawks. No way he walks away from that kinda cake.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:38 PM   #2680
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I know that a lot of people think that, including a few on this thread tonight, but it’s not really true. He’s going to get paid the majority of the contract but there are significant cap savings to be made by buying him out next summer.

They’d be stupid not to. So I guess maybe we do see him sticking around after all.
So how exactly is 84% of the term cap hit & 92% overall NOT a buy out Proof contract.

I hear what you are saying, which is basically that he’s so bad even if it was 5% it’s addition by subtraction.

But the buy bring 16% savings... with is next to nothing over 4 years.
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