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Old 10-03-2021, 10:30 AM   #2621
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Then vote Duncan Kinney and Jett Thunders who actually acknowledge that
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Then vote Duncan Kinney and Jett Thunders who actually acknowledge that
That's my plan!
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I'm voting YES on fluoride, NO on messing with DST. Leave it how it is.
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I'm voting YES on fluoride, NO on messing with DST. Leave it how it is.
I am voting yes to both.
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Old 10-03-2021, 02:42 PM   #2625
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I am voting yes to both.
I am also voting YES to flouride and Yes to no more time changes. That said, I think reasonable people can disagree about the time change thing, whereas Fluoride is basically a no-brainer.
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The way I look at time changes is that there are what, maybe five things in your possession that don't change the clock by themselves for DST? Computers, TVs, cable boxes, cell phones and tablets, car infotainment, game consoles, smart appliances, even some alarm clocks all change by themselves. These days you have basic alarm and decorative clocks, analog watches, the oven, and the microwave. What used to be akin to an easter egg hunt -- find the appliance mom and dad didn't change the clock on yet -- is now a five minute job twice a year. Way easier when you work with people across the country -- Pacific time, subtract an hour. Central, add an hour. Eastern, add two. Atlantic, add three.

And we don't join the weirdos like Saskatchewan. At least Arizona gets the benefit of cooler evenings given their scorching hot climate, and Alaska's latitude makes DST pointless.
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I'm voting...
  • YES for fluoride because d'uh.

  • NO for the transfer thing because it's stupid, Kenney is stupid, and Kenney wants me to vote Yes. #### Kenney.

  • NO for the DST change because we already have a perfectly-logical plan to remain consistent with BC and the western States and make the change when and if they do. I don't know what the plan is if this vote goes Yes -- will the current plan change and we'll stop changing our clocks regardless of what the rest of our neighbours do, or will this just reconfirm what has already been decided? We don't want to be Saskatchewan and voting Yes is the option that's most-likely to make us Saskatchewan. Voting No will keep the status quo.


For the Senate, Jett Thunders is the only one who has made any effort to try to earn my vote, so I guess he gets it by default.
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Ward 12 did a similar debate to the U of C mayoral debate and its up on YouTube to watch.

I'll be honest, it's very dry and most of the answers are predictable. Craig Chandler noticeably stuck out by calling Trudeau "Mr dress up" several times and had 1 pot shot at Evan Spencer.

Really the only candidate I liked was Michael Streilein, Evan Spencer and Stephen Phan were both ho hum and very similar to each other. Beyond that, everyone else was forgettable.

If you need something to fall asleep to, have a watch:

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I'm voting...
  • YES for fluoride because d'uh.
  • NO for the transfer thing because it's stupid, Kenney is stupid, and Kenney wants me to vote Yes. #### Kenney.
  • NO for the DST change because we already have a perfectly-logical plan to remain consistent with BC and the western States and make the change when and if they do. I don't know what the plan is if this vote goes Yes -- will the current plan change and we'll stop changing our clocks regardless of what the rest of our neighbours do, or will this just reconfirm what has already been decided? We don't want to be Saskatchewan and voting Yes is the option that's most-likely to make us Saskatchewan. Voting No will keep the status quo.


For the Senate, Jett Thunders is the only one who has made any effort to try to earn my vote, so I guess he gets it by default.
So for DST, it's already been approved, and will happen when others do it? And this vote is to say go it alone? Is that correct? I didn't realize we already had a plan. Feels like the government should maybe put some information and effort into these questions?
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So for DST, it's already been approved, and will happen when others do it? And this vote is to say go it alone? Is that correct? I didn't realize we already had a plan. Feels like the government should maybe put some information and effort into these questions?
That's my understanding, but I could be wrong.

I know the NDP looked into it a few years ago and while a majority of Albertans supported dropping the time change, it was decided that it would be too disruptive to businesses to do it without being done in-step with at least BC, and ideally all provinces at the same time (and hopefully many States as well).

Perhaps the NDP just dropped it and never finalized a plan for implementation, but the way this question is worded is too vague in my opinion. The worst thing we could do is be out of step with the rest of the continent (except for weirdos like Saskatchewan and Arizona) and I don't know what the implementation plan is if this vote passes.

Based on how it's written on the government's website, it seems like if it passes, they will implement it whether anyone else does or not: https://www.alberta.ca/provincial-referendum.aspx

I can't support that, therefore, I have to vote NO.
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Dropping DST is the smartest thing Saskatchewan ever did. Just rip the band-aid off, it needs to happen.

This isn't the 1960s.
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Thinking about Monique Auffrey for Ward 8. Seems to have a very impressive resume but does anyone on here know much about them?

Also, why are there still so many candidates for mayor? Is this normal? I would have assumed many would fold their campaigns by now to support 3-4 main candidates. A little shocked that it's not happening.
Most of the candidates are only running to increase their public profile and help themselves professionally.
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Old 10-04-2021, 08:26 AM   #2633
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Dropping DST is the smartest thing Saskatchewan ever did. Just rip the band-aid off, it needs to happen.

This isn't the 1960s.
That's not what the question is though. I agree dropping DST is the way to go. But we're voting on keeping DST all year
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Old 10-04-2021, 08:33 AM   #2634
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That's my understanding, but I could be wrong.

I know the NDP looked into it a few years ago and while a majority of Albertans supported dropping the time change, it was decided that it would be too disruptive to businesses to do it without being done in-step with at least BC, and ideally all provinces at the same time (and hopefully many States as well).

Perhaps the NDP just dropped it and never finalized a plan for implementation, but the way this question is worded is too vague in my opinion. The worst thing we could do is be out of step with the rest of the continent (except for weirdos like Saskatchewan and Arizona) and I don't know what the implementation plan is if this vote passes.

Based on how it's written on the government's website, it seems like if it passes, they will implement it whether anyone else does or not: https://www.alberta.ca/provincial-referendum.aspx

I can't support that, therefore, I have to vote NO.
That’s why the whole referendum is dumb - clearly the most correct answer is simply to do what everyone else is doing.

Having a different DST system than everyone around us is clearly a terrible option (Saskatchewan, no one cares about you).

The only caveat is that if everyone goes to permanent standard time, we should go to permanent daylight time.
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Are there any polls or anything that show where the candidates are at with support? I want to make sure I vote for whoever has the best shot at beating Farkas.
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Are there any polls or anything that show where the candidates are at with support? I want to make sure I vote for whoever has the best shot at beating Farkas.
To add - are there any Ward polls?
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Most of the candidates are only running to increase their public profile and help themselves professionally.
Could you or someone else explain how this would work? I don't see any added value in working with or hiring someone who failed to get elected? Especially if they run a sub-par and sloppy looking campaign.
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Are there any polls or anything that show where the candidates are at with support? I want to make sure I vote for whoever has the best shot at beating Farkas.
the last poll I saw was published Sept 22, which had Farkass at 30%, Gondek at 25%, and nobody else over 6%. the undecided contingent was pretty big at 28%.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8212466/c...election-poll/

I've been waiting for an updated poll as well, but haven't seen anything that indicates someone coming from out of the pack to make it a 3 horse race. so until we have some more info to go on, you know what you need to do.
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That's not what the question is though. I agree dropping DST is the way to go. But we're voting on keeping DST all year
Ah yeah that's a poor one. Standard time would be much more preferable. My bad.
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I found this interesting. From July, 16% of the undecided voters had made a decision and it resulted in pretty big gains for Gondek over Farkas. Also, all other candidates saw decreases as it settles more into a two horse race. Looks like it will be really tight but if the remaining 28% of undecided voters go in that same direction it looks good for Gondek.

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