The PP press conference and The Crime Minister's interview are night and day. One man is laying out his plans for the country with clear concise answers and the other one is childishly attacking anyone he can, telling us how terrible Canada is and still not giving any concrete plans on what he'll do to fix it.
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"“It’s our constitutional duty to hold the government to account and we will do that. We’ll give a voice to the voiceless, [and] those who’ve been cast aside, ignored, kicked to the curb, [and] the decent honourable people whose lives have been turned upside down in the last decade.”" - PP
They aren't voiceless, Pierre. We just had an election and they used their voices to tell you they don't want you or your ideas.
That’s not really the case 4/10 people voted for him. Even if you add in NDP this election was 50, 42, 6.
That’s a very large group who expressed dissatisfaction with the status quo and PP should represent their interests in Parliament and hopefully that means voting for legislation.
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Conservatives have what, like 140 seats? If you have such good ideas then introduce bills proposing them. Don't just sit in the corner and cry, or smugly suggest the other parties should just 'steal' your ideas while you do nothing but watch. Actually participate in parliament rather than just fight everyone on everything
Listening to Carney today, it's incredibly refreshing to hear a politician who seems to actually have the countries best interests in mind, not just their parties interests. .
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The PP press conference and The Crime Minister's[ interview are night and day. One man is laying out his plans for the country with clear concise answers and the other one is childishly attacking anyone he can, telling us how terrible Canada is and still not giving any concrete plans on what he'll do to fix it.
Was this a typo or are you joining the "give everyone a disparaging nickname" team?
Although I've got to be honest - "Crime Minister" would have been a good one for Trudeau during the SNC Lavalin affair.
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That is a ridiculous appointment, I don't get the impression he cares much about Canadian culture. Minister of official languages I can see but identity and culture hahahaha
I would be interested in a short summary of why he is met with derision. I have seen the name on CP a lot, but I don't know about him. He appears to be an activist who believes in the environment. I read his wiki here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Guilbeault.
Is it simply that he believes in things Alberta believes will damage O/G?
Serious question, please provide serious answers and save the derision.
I know him personally, or I used to. Haven't really seen much of him since he moved back east to run in 2015. He's a smart guy. As for how he got the position, maybe that was the deal for him to come back. But I think it's the position he is best suited for and I'm pretty confident in his ability in that role.
What are you basing that on? Again, legitimately curious. Three years of practicing law does not give me a lot of confidence that he has the experience for the role, unless there are no other lawyers to choose from.
Again, if your defence of the cabinet is that certain members can't do much damage and that the Conservatives would have been worse anyways, that's a pretty terrible argument. I'm not trying to argue that the Conservatives should have won. They shouldn't have - they ran an atrocious campaign with an awful leader that can't seem to grasp what Canadians actually want. That doesn't mean I can't criticize the cabinet choices of this government.
I seem to remember a lot of people on this board (rightfully) chastising the Conservatives for not having an actual platform and instead just talking about how bad the Trudeau Liberals were. Well, pot, meet kettle.
I would like to hear some specifics on why you feel the people you are criticizing did not measure up. "Lost Trudeau Years" is not an answer. I would like to hear your specific concerns.
It seems like a double edge sword. Someone with experience in a portfolio is biased. But someone with no experience has no experience. What is it we want out of our Cabinet Ministers?
Conservatives have what, like 140 seats? If you have such good ideas then introduce bills proposing them. Don't just sit in the corner and cry, or smugly suggest the other parties should just 'steal' your ideas while you do nothing but watch. Actually participate in parliament rather than just fight everyone on everything
Listening to Carney today, it's incredibly refreshing to hear a politician who seems to actually have the countries best interests in mind, not just their parties interests. .
Totally agree. You have better ideas? Propose them. Put bills forward. Do the job you think the Libs should be doing and do what is best for the country and get the NDP and Bloc to support your ideas.
Don't just sit back and whine and moan about what the other party is doing. Oppose by example.
What are you basing that on? Again, legitimately curious. Three years of practicing law does not give me a lot of confidence that he has the experience for the role, unless there are no other lawyers to choose from.
I was sure it was more like 5 years, but anyway, I'm basing it on my professional interactions with him on files when he was still a lawyer and personal interactions outside of the context of those files. There are lots of unimpressive lawyers out there and he was on the other end of the spectrum. Like I say, smart guy, particularly once you get past the "aw shucks" initial impression. Could've easily stayed in biglaw and made lots of money at it, I'm sure.
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Very good interview between Carney and Kapelos and must watch.
Really like Carney's answer to push nuclear first and foremost but also with oil as an element of the energy plan.
Such a solid and welcome departure from Trudeau's ideological narcissist gaslighting (i.e. telling us how much money is being put into our pockets), and also from Poilievre often nonsensical rhetoric. He'll just straight up give an answer for results, and if it means building a pipeline, or even reviewing C-69, that will be done if it's the right call, but not because of a promise or slogan.
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I think we are in good hands.
Then our unfriendly eco terrorist MP and minister of culture lays out this gem.
So the question that always was still remains. Can Carney bring the extreme right of the party to the centre or will he need to align with conservatives to enact any energy superpower programs?
Flat out lying that tmx is at 40% capacity. Last month it was 710,000 barrels
Totally agree. You have better ideas? Propose them. Put bills forward. Do the job you think the Libs should be doing and do what is best for the country and get the NDP and Bloc to support your ideas.
Don't just sit back and whine and moan about what the other party is doing. Oppose by example.
"The Lost Liberal 14 Years" is too long of a slogan for his moron deplorable supporters. lol
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That’s not really the case 4/10 people voted for him. Even if you add in NDP this election was 50, 42, 6.
That’s a very large group who expressed dissatisfaction with the status quo and PP should represent their interests in Parliament and hopefully that means voting for legislation.
You don't think there's a better way to speak to that? Pretty easy to just say "We're going to continue to work for all Canadians, regardless of who they voted for."
IMO, he's signaling another 4 years of his exhausting brand of grievance politics.
Totally agree. You have better ideas? Propose them. Put bills forward. Do the job you think the Libs should be doing and do what is best for the country and get the NDP and Bloc to support your ideas.
Don't just sit back and whine and moan about what the other party is doing. Oppose by example.
They will introduce bills, but they'll do it the same way they've been doing it since PP has been in charge. Introduce a bill with some kind of politically-loaded name that riles up the base but completely lacks substance when you actually look at it, or worse, hides some of their worst policy positions.
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That's why he should have realistically been booted right out of cabinet. He's a major liability to Carney's unity message but at this point because of the CPC's own bungling and because Liberals need to cater to special interest groups, he will be around for 4 more years at the minimum.
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Guillbeault is in a joke position in cabinet. Don't get your undergarments all bunched about it. It's a handout, but ultimately we likely won't need to hear from him at all over the next 4 years.
Looks like we have already heard from him and already causing controversy. Unless he gets muzzled by Carney, we will hear a lot more.
That's why he should have realistically been booted right out of cabinet. He's a major liability to Carney's unity message but at this point because of the CPC's own bungling and because Liberals need to cater to special interest groups, he will be around for 4 more years at the minimum.
Looks like we have already heard from him and already causing controversy. Unless he gets muzzled by Carney, we will hear a lot more.
I'm always way out of my depth when it comes to the pipeline debates, so I try to ask questions rather than chime in.
Can someone explain to me like I'm 5 why what he's saying is incorrect?
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