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Old 05-12-2025, 09:04 PM   #26281
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If they appoint a Con as speaker, the effective margin is one seat.

Vote one in as speaker, and get one to cross the floor into cabinet. Boom. Done.

Although, I'd rather them just live with the minority and run an effective government. I hope Carney acts like a strategic/pragmatic economist and not tied 100% to political ideology. We'll see.
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Old 05-12-2025, 10:14 PM   #26282
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Vote one in as speaker, and get one to cross the floor into cabinet. Boom. Done.

Although, I'd rather them just live with the minority and run an effective government. I hope Carney acts like a strategic/pragmatic economist and not tied 100% to political ideology. We'll see.

Given how many similarities there were between the Liberal and Conservative platform, one would hope the Conservatives would support initiatives that are aligned with economic growth. But that would require everyone to grow up and act like reasonable adults.
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Old 05-12-2025, 10:21 PM   #26283
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I'm guessing you mean a Liberal BQ member or an NDP? they are not appointing a Con as speaker. That would be ridiculous

Although there would be a decent argument for trying to appoint an NDP. It would mean more often than not that the NDP speaker would be obliged to break for the government if needed, and any 1 member from the other 4 parties could push any single bill over the line.
No, I mean a Con. Harper kept a Liberal as speaker for two terms, before he appointed Scheer. But in reality the ballot isn't that simple any more. Members remove their name from consideration and those who don't are voted on by secret ranked ballot.

I'm not sure what your second parapgraph means. The speaker doesn't vote, except for a tie and then can only vote to continue debate or maintain the status quo.
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Given how many similarities there were between the Liberal and Conservative platform, one would hope the Conservatives would support initiatives that are aligned with economic growth. But that would require everyone to grow up and act like reasonable adults.
If Carney is smart he will focus on those similarities, A because they are the right priorities at this time and B because it would be an own-goal for the CPC to vote against them. I hope he doesn't go or get led down the road of playing political games and load legislation with poison pills.
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Old 05-13-2025, 08:36 AM   #26285
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No, Cabinet Ministers or Secretaries of State for Alberta.
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No, Cabinet Ministers or Secretaries of State for Alberta.
That's it, I'm separating. This is what we get for voting Liberal.
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Old 05-13-2025, 08:49 AM   #26287
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No, Cabinet Ministers or Secretaries of State for Alberta.
... What are you talking about? Eleanor Olszewski (Edmonton Centre) is in.

She's a transplant but Stephanie McLean (former Minister in Notley's cabinet newly elected in BC) is also in. Plus Freeland and Carney himself (also transplants from AB, albeit not as recently as McLean).

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Old 05-13-2025, 08:56 AM   #26288
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... What are you talking about? Eleanor Olszewski (Edmonton Centre) is in.

She's a transplant but Stephanie McLean (former Minister in Notley's cabinet newly elected in BC) is also in. Plus Freeland and Carney himself (also transplants from AB, albeit not as recently as McLean).
CBC's David Cochrane was giving a regional breakdown and didn't mention anyone representing Alberta. McLean, Freeland and Carney aren't representatives of ridings in Alberta.
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Saga is not over in Terrebonne.

A voter's mail in ballot was returned because Elections Canada printed the wrong postal code on the return envelope. She voted Bloc.
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Maybe Alberta should have voted in more Liberals if they wanted some Ministers...
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CBC's David Cochrane was giving a regional breakdown and didn't mention anyone representing Alberta. McLean, Freeland and Carney aren't representatives of ridings in Alberta.
Then Cochrane forgot to mention Olszewski. She's the Minister of Emergency Management and Community Resilience. Also Minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada.
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You have to think that Corey Hogan works himself into a position at some point.

Tough to put a party rookie into cabinet just because he's from Alberta. That would be kinda DEI-ish.
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Old 05-13-2025, 09:17 AM   #26293
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Carney’s cabinet has 28 ministers and 10 secretaries of state (people who have specific roles, but aren’t necessarily connected to a particular department).

Twenty-four are new ministers, and 13 of them are first-time MPs.

Here’s the full list:

Shafqat Ali, President of the Treasury Board
Rebecca Alty, Minister of Crown-Indigenous relations
Anita Anand, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Gary Anandasangaree, Minister of Public Safety
François-Philippe Champagne, Minister of Finance and National Revenue
Rebecca Chartrand, Minister of Northern and Arctic Affairs; and Minister responsible for the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency
Julie Dabrusin, Minister of Environment and Climate Change
Sean Fraser, Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada; and Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Chrystia Freeland, Minister of Transport and Internal Trade
Steven Guilbeault, Minister of Canadian Identity and Culture; and Minister responsible for Official Languages
Mandy Gull-Masty, Minister of Indigenous Services
Patty Hajdu, Minister of Jobs and Families; and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario
Tim Hodgson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources
Mélanie Joly, Minister of Industry; and Minister responsible for Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions
Dominic LeBlanc, President of the King’s Privy Council for Canada; and Minister responsible for Canada-U.S. Trade, Intergovernmental Affairs and One Canadian Economy
Joël Lightbound, Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement
Heath MacDonald, Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Steven MacKinnon, Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
David J. McGuinty, Minister of National Defence
Jill McKnight, Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence
Lena Metlege Diab, Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
Marjorie Michel, Minister of Health
Eleanor Olszewski, Minister of Emergency Management and Community Resilience; and Minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada
Gregor Robertson, Minister of Housing and Infrastructure; and Minister responsible for Pacific Economic Development Canada
Maninder Sidhu, Minister of International Trade
Evan Solomon, Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation; and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario
Joanne Thompson, Minister of Fisheries
Rechie Valdez, Minister of Women and Gender Equality; and secretary of state (small business and tourism)

Secretaries of State:

Buckley Belanger, secretary of state (rural development)
Stephen Fuhr, secretary of state (defence procurement)
Anna Gainey, secretary of state (children and youth)
Wayne Long, secretary of state (Canada Revenue Agency and financial institutions)
Stephanie McLean, secretary of state (seniors)
Nathalie Provost, secretary of state (nature)
Ruby Sahota, secretary of state (combatting crime)
Randeep Sarai, secretary of state (international development)
Adam van Koeverden, secretary of state (sport)
John Zerucelli, secretary of state (labour)
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Well all these people seem like idiots who are going to ruin our country.

Also, who are these people? I just learn their names.
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Old 05-13-2025, 09:22 AM   #26295
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It just seems like the smart move would be to have Freeland and Guillebaut completely out of the spotlight for a while. Some of the Trudeau circle rehabilitated their images throughout the Trump saga to date (LeBlanc, Joly) but others not so much.
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Time Hodgeson is a finance bro like Carney


"From 1990 to 2010, Hodgson held various positions in New York, London, Silicon Valley and Toronto with Goldman Sachs and served as CEO of Goldman Sachs Canada from 2005 to 2010.[4] He worked with Mark Carney at Goldman Sachs and joined the Bank of Canada as special adviser to him in 2010, when Carney was governor.[5] Prior to the 2025 elections, Hodgson was the chair of Hydro One.[6] He took an unpaid leave of absence as chair of the board of directors at Hydro One in order to stand in the election. He also stepped away from the board of the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan, where he was vice-chair of the investment committee.[7]

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Old 05-13-2025, 09:26 AM   #26297
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No, Cabinet Ministers or Secretaries of State for Alberta.
nor should there be.

with how Alberta voted, what the heck did you expect?
you can't elect only 2 liberals out of 37 seats and realistically expect cabinet representation from Alberta ridings.
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You have to think that Corey Hogan works himself into a position at some point.

Tough to put a party rookie into cabinet just because he's from Alberta. That would be kinda DEI-ish.
13 of the 38 selected are rookies including 8 of the 28 Ministers.
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Half of the Alberta Liberal MPs are in cabinet...
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Carney’s cabinet has 28 ministers and 10 secretaries of state (people who have specific roles, but aren’t necessarily connected to a particular department).

Twenty-four are new ministers, and 13 of them are first-time MPs.

Here’s the full list:

Shafqat Ali, President of the Treasury Board
Rebecca Alty, Minister of Crown-Indigenous relations
Anita Anand, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Gary Anandasangaree, Minister of Public Safety
François-Philippe Champagne, Minister of Finance and National Revenue
Rebecca Chartrand, Minister of Northern and Arctic Affairs; and Minister responsible for the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency
Julie Dabrusin, Minister of Environment and Climate Change
Sean Fraser, Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada; and Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Chrystia Freeland, Minister of Transport and Internal Trade
Steven Guilbeault, Minister of Canadian Identity and Culture; and Minister responsible for Official Languages
Mandy Gull-Masty, Minister of Indigenous Services
Patty Hajdu, Minister of Jobs and Families; and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario
Tim Hodgson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources
Mélanie Joly, Minister of Industry; and Minister responsible for Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions
Dominic LeBlanc, President of the King’s Privy Council for Canada; and Minister responsible for Canada-U.S. Trade, Intergovernmental Affairs and One Canadian Economy
Joël Lightbound, Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement
Heath MacDonald, Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Steven MacKinnon, Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
David J. McGuinty, Minister of National Defence
Jill McKnight, Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence
Lena Metlege Diab, Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
Marjorie Michel, Minister of Health
Eleanor Olszewski, Minister of Emergency Management and Community Resilience; and Minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada
Gregor Robertson, Minister of Housing and Infrastructure; and Minister responsible for Pacific Economic Development Canada
Maninder Sidhu, Minister of International Trade
Evan Solomon, Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation; and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario
Joanne Thompson, Minister of Fisheries
Rechie Valdez, Minister of Women and Gender Equality; and secretary of state (small business and tourism)

Secretaries of State:

Buckley Belanger, secretary of state (rural development)
Stephen Fuhr, secretary of state (defence procurement)
Anna Gainey, secretary of state (children and youth)
Wayne Long, secretary of state (Canada Revenue Agency and financial institutions)
Stephanie McLean, secretary of state (seniors)
Nathalie Provost, secretary of state (nature)
Ruby Sahota, secretary of state (combatting crime)
Randeep Sarai, secretary of state (international development)
Adam van Koeverden, secretary of state (sport)
John Zerucelli, secretary of state (labour)
That is a ridiculous appointment, I don't get the impression he cares much about Canadian culture. Minster of official languages I can see but identity and culture hahahaha
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