Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[puffnstuff]

I dont know who this guy is but he writes a pretty good article

https://letterkenny.substack.com/p/w...dRedirect=true

Battle River - Crowfoot
What You’re Being Offered – Pierre Poilievre

You didn’t ask for Pierre Poilievre.
And until two weeks ago, he’d never asked for you.

When he lost his Ontario seat in Carleton—a riding he’d held for nearly 20 years—he didn’t reflect or regroup. His constituents didn’t suddenly become Liberals overnight, they just reached a point where they had tired of his divisive politics, his victim mentality, his blame games, his lack of substance. He didn’t take responsibility. He didn’t ask the people who knew him best why they turned the page.

He just looked for another seat.
One that was safe.
One where the party could count on silence.

He could have chosen any riding, but he needed one the Party believed even he couldn’t lose. He landed on Battle River-Crowfoot. And now he wants to claim the seat that was meant for the man you elected and who stood for you?

Not because of shared values. Not because of connection. But because the math worked. Battle River–Crowfoot was chosen for him—not as a community to represent, but as a platform to reclaim his position. A fallback. A rescue. A parachute.

He didn’t earn your vote. He inherited your riding.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Aren't the boxes and documents sealed and signed by scrutineers after being counted? The only way to add additional ballots would be to break the seal, which would be impossible to not notice when the returning officer receives the boxes.

The seals are numbered and logged, too, so replacing seals is also not a possibility. Any ballot stuffing would need to iccur tthroughout the day. There is a reconciliation of votes cast to the number of ballots used so it's not like you could get away with a material discrepancy between these two numbers.

[Hemi-Cuda]

It's pretty ironic that for all the bitching conservative voters do about Ontario and the east, they'll more than likely happily vote for an Ontario city boy being parachuted into a rural riding that he's probably never even set foot in

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

It's pretty ironic that for all the bitching conservative voters do about Ontario and the east, they'll more than likely happily vote for an Ontario city boy being parachuted into a rural riding that he's probably never even set foot in

To be fair the slogan was “More Alberta, Less Ottawa”, but technically they never said they’d have an issue with more suburbs of Ottawa.

[PeteMoss]

Libs gain a seat after they win the recount in terrabonne by 1 vote. The seat was originally given to liberals after the first count. Went over to the bloc after the initial review and now back to the liberals. I don't know if I've ever seen a 1 vote difference.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

So are they up to 170 now? Because getting two floor crossers seems doable.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

So are they up to 170 now? Because getting two floor crossers seems doable.

They are, but there are currently 3 more recounts going on - 2 in Ontario and 1 in Newfoundland.


Liberals won the one in Newfoundland 1 of the Ontario ridings, but the other Ontario riding is currently Conservative. 77 votes ahead though, which is a higher number to be affected by a recount.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Libs gain a seat after they win the recount in terrabonne by 1 vote. The seat was originally given to liberals after the first count. Went over to the bloc after the initial review and now back to the liberals. I don't know if I've ever seen a 1 vote difference.

That is pretty crazy to win by a single vote. What happens if it is a tie?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Robbob

That is pretty crazy to win by a single vote. What happens if it is a tie?

Fight to the death.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Robbob

That is pretty crazy to win by a single vote. What happens if it is a tie?

I #### you not, a coin flip.

[BigThief]

They should have time split the riding in half. Whoever gives up the riding instead of see it split is the true owner

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I #### you not, a coin flip.

Not even a fire making challenge? We need to get more creative, Elections Canada is boring.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

So are they up to 170 now? Because getting two floor crossers seems doable.

If they appoint a Con as speaker, the effective margin is one seat.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

I dont know who this guy is but he writes a pretty good article

https://letterkenny.substack.com/p/w...dRedirect=true

Battle River - Crowfoot
What You’re Being Offered – Pierre Poilievre

You didn’t ask for Pierre Poilievre.
And until two weeks ago, he’d never asked for you.

When he lost his Ontario seat in Carleton—a riding he’d held for nearly 20 years—he didn’t reflect or regroup. His constituents didn’t suddenly become Liberals overnight, they just reached a point where they had tired of his divisive politics, his victim mentality, his blame games, his lack of substance. He didn’t take responsibility. He didn’t ask the people who knew him best why they turned the page.

He just looked for another seat.
One that was safe.
One where the party could count on silence.

He could have chosen any riding, but he needed one the Party believed even he couldn’t lose. He landed on Battle River-Crowfoot. And now he wants to claim the seat that was meant for the man you elected and who stood for you?

Not because of shared values. Not because of connection. But because the math worked. Battle River–Crowfoot was chosen for him—not as a community to represent, but as a platform to reclaim his position. A fallback. A rescue. A parachute.

He didn’t earn your vote. He inherited your riding.

It's good, but it talks up the current MP a lot when he's a contributor to the issue. he could have said "no, they elected me and I'm not stepping aside".

[puffnstuff]

That would require a level of backbone currently absent from the Conservative caucus.
Also, he is mostly writing to a specific audience, Con voters in that riding that he would like to not just vote the same way they always have.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

If they appoint a Con as speaker, the effective margin is one seat.

I'm guessing you mean a Liberal BQ member or an NDP? they are not appointing a Con as speaker. That would be ridiculous

Although there would be a decent argument for trying to appoint an NDP. It would mean more often than not that the NDP speaker would be obliged to break for the government if needed, and any 1 member from the other 4 parties could push any single bill over the line.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I #### you not, a coin flip.

I had to double check and it looks like according to a CBC article that at the Federal level it would be a byelection.

I have to say that at the provincial level the tie breakers are pretty funny.

Reasonable:
B.C, Alberta, Manitoba, Quebec, Newfoundland, NWT, and Nunavut all have a byelection

I can get behind it:
Saskatchewan seat becomes vacant
Ontario returning officer casts deciding vote
New Brunswick returning officer casts deciding vote

Really?
Nova Scotia each candidate's name is written on a separate piece of paper; the paper is put in box, which is then shaken; candidate whose name is on withdrawn paper is winner
P.E.I. coin toss
Yukon drawing of lots

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Really?
Nova Scotia each candidate's name is written on a separate piece of paper; the paper is put in box, which is then shaken; candidate whose name is on withdrawn paper is winner

In a recent municipal election there was a tie for a counsel seat.

Election was electronic so the judicial recount was the CRO printing the results again.

Then names went into a box.

Then the CRO drew one name with a Provincial Court Judge overseeing the whole thing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...draw-1.7387578

[calgarygeologist]

The new cabinet starts tomorrow and apparently it will be 50% rookie Ministers. Also, it is being reported that Freeland is being dropped from Cabinet.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Not even a fire making challenge? We need to get more creative, Elections Canada is boring.

clearly it should be a hockey shoot out.