Because it is plainly obvious that the mere presence of another vehicle next to yours actually does piss you off.
Conversely, the mere presence of another vehicle next to yours seems to get you off.
Looking out the window right now, it seems as if my car is sandwiched between two SUV's in the small parking lot of my condo. Not remotely irritated. At work, I don't even care where I park. My car is half as expensive as everything there but I know they're not going to hit it. Not remotely irritated.
In an empty mall parking lot where I've sought a spot at the back? Not remotely irritated unless you've hit my car, but I do find myself wondering why you parked there and unnecessarily presented an opportunity for not only your door to hit my car, but for my door to hit your car. You could park one space over, even.
You're misunderstanding me completely. [...] In photon's photo example, I would not park next to the red arrow; I'd park in the first available spot I saw.
Nah I understood your point, but I mean... you're honestly telling me to access the building at the top of the screen coming from the bottom left you'd park in one of these two spots I've pointed to with green arrows?
Uhh... when you said you weren't fat I absolutely believe you because you seem to make a ton of extra work for yourself.
Not one of you has actually explained how simply parking next to someone demonstrates a lack of "basic respect for others property".
Uh I think a few people have. You've conveniently ignored those posts. Like I said before, it's similar in my mind to someone sitting right next to you in and empty bus. There's plenty of space to go around, why would you come right next to me? You've now made it less comfortable, more squashed, and you walked further out of your way to do it. I don't understand it.
It doesn't make me angry, as you seem to think (which also seems to make you angry for some reason ) it simply annoys me. Nothing more than an eyeroll and a confused "wtf? Why?" muttered under my breath as I continue on with my day.
So flipping this back to you, why do you think it's normal to park right next to a vehicle in the middle of nowhere? Especially when said parking spot is further out of your way (nowhere near the parking lot entrance, or the entrance to whatever building you're going too) and surrounded by dozens of empty spots.
All I've said in this thread is I don't understand the thought process that leads to someone going out of their way ignore the easier, faster, more open spaces, and take the one next to someone. You're right when you say there's nothing technically wrong about it, but I just don't get why you'd do it.
Take the 'car guy' thing out of the equation, as that seems to upset you. It could be any old hunk of junk that the owner doesn't care about. You're still making your own life more difficult by going out of your way to park next to it. Why?
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Not one of you has actually explained how simply parking next to someone demonstrates a lack of "basic respect for others property".
It is basically preventative maintenance in my eyes. I don't like door dings, and damage on my car. It doesn't matter if it's my BMW, my VW, or my motorcycle. I am being courteous to all parties involved. Myself, and someone else by:
a) Freeing up a premium space closer to the door for those that don't care about door dings.
b) Absolving them of any liability if they do ding my car. Because if I see you do it, you are 100% liable to pay.
If someone obviously goes out of their way to park far away, to avoid the cost of door dings and paint scuffs, it does kinda show an "FU and your fancy car." attitude when someone blatantly parks right next to you if you've parked in a remote spot like the ones pictured above with the arrows when there are sometimes hundreds of others to choose from that are not next to anyone. It is no different than a family setting up their lawn chairs and picnic on a kilometre long empty beach, and some one else showing up and setting up right next to them. There is no rule saying you can't I guess... but it is an inconsiderate dickhole move.
And yes, it could be a young kid with his first brand new Toyota Yaris, or a multi-millionaire with a $300k Ferrari. When you see that car, all by it's lonesome, in the middle of nowhere, at an obviously inconvenient distance from the door... unless you were born yesterday, it is obvious that owner just wants to protect their car for whatever reason because they take pride in it.
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Not one of you has actually explained how simply parking next to someone demonstrates a lack of "basic respect for others property".
Also, as demonstrated by this secret video footage of you and your wife out shopping..... wind catches car doors. (I really like how you guys slinked away into the shadows, leaving the owner of the Chevy with a $500 repair bill. That was the best part.)
All joking aside, I have never had someone stick around, and owe up to bashing my car with their check book in hand. I prefer the pacifist approach by avoiding the above scenario altogether. But you for some reason, believe we should increase the odds of such a conflict. I'll admit being the desolate car guy is a bit weird. Purposefully parking next to the desolate car, however, is cranking the weirdness knob to 11, and yanking it right off.
This exact thing happened to me and my wife once, wind ripped the door right out of her hand. We left a note with all our information on it (couldn't wait around) but they never contacted us.
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This exact thing happened to me and my wife once, wind ripped the door right out of her hand. We left a note with all our information on it (couldn't wait around) but they never contacted us.
I would be honoured if you dinged my door one day, because in 23 years of driving, not one person has ever done the right thing when they cranked mine.
I still haven't seen a valid reason to park beside a car in a remote location. Marchhare's is a red herring, because it's not a remote location, it's directly in front of the entrance to the lot. Plus, he's spent years telling us he doesn't drive, so it's not like he knows what he's talking about anyways. </greentext>
I also don't understand the people that are making a big deal out of it either. At least to the point where it's worth so much back and forth. But then, it is the offseason...
I think this is what pisses me off the most at the guys making fun of 'car guys'. I don't 'expect' anything of anyone. However, I will extend common courtesy, because it is just a nice thing to do. The anti-car guys seem to almost take this to antagonistic levels.
When I see that lone car, I get it. I will take a stall respectfully away from it, and go about my day, even if that means driving another 20 feet. If it's a real special car, I might walk up to it, admire it, and even chat up the owner a bit if I cross paths with him. I love cars. My walls were plastered with them as a kid, and I love driving. That guy has a common bond with me. I spend many a slow moment at work looking for hidden gems on Kijiji. It is not the expectation that nobody park near me because I think I am better, you can if you really need to I guess. It is the expectation of being courteous. I would be respectful of the car guys space, but I am generally a respectful person.
In another scenario. I am at a co-workers house for a party. He has all these really neat Transfomers I had never seen before on a shelf, and I picked one up and tried to figure it out. He came over almost panicked and said "Please put that down, it is a collector item and worth close to a thousand dollars." I had no clue... I put the toy down and apologized. The remainder of that night, any time I saw someone looking at them, I warned them that "Those are collector items, it'll piss off Lee if you touch them." I understood that was his deal, and his property deserved respect, even though I was confused as to why a 32 year old man had invested thousands in toy robots. Each to his own.
Also, I would love to know, how many of these non car guys, would actually pull a photon, and leave a note if they damaged someones car. I guarantee, not one of you would. Even though every single one of you will say you have. And if you have left a note, then you have validated what the 'car guys' are saying. It is the Kobayashi Maru of parking arguments.
Also, I would love to know, how many of these non car guys, would actually pull a photon, and leave a note if they damaged someones car. I guarantee, not one of you would. Even though every single one of you will say you have. And if you have left a note, then you have validated what the 'car guys' are saying. It is the Kobayashi Maru of parking arguments.
Marchhare's is a red herring, because it's not a remote location, it's directly in front of the entrance to the lot.
That's only because I was quickly making a stupid MSPaint drawing and didn't feel like drawing dozens of parking stalls. I assure you that whenever I do park, I always choose the most convenient stall I see, which is usually near the back of the lot by the entrance, not at the front near the building's door.
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Plus, he's spent years telling us he doesn't drive, so it's not like he knows what he's talking about anyways. </greentext>
I haven't said that I never drive, but rather that I'm a pedestrian rather than a motorist for the majority of my intra-city transportation.
Also, I would love to know, how many of these non car guys, would actually pull a photon, and leave a note if they damaged someones car. I guarantee, not one of you would. Even though every single one of you will say you have. And if you have left a note, then you have validated what the 'car guys' are saying. It is the Kobayashi Maru of parking arguments.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
I've never once in my life dinged somebody else's car door, but if I did, I would do the right thing and leave a note.
I still don't get why the "car guys" think that everyone knows this unwritten rule, and are therefore not extending proper courtesy by parking a ways away.
Surely it's not a commonly known rule if I've only just heard about it in this thread.
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Maybe that's the thing. I'm a pretty courteous guy via mannerisms and such, so it's likely that I fully trust myself to not bang my #### (which I like) against your ####.
I mean I would guess that whacking your door with mine wouldn't be very good for my car as well.
I still don't get why the "car guys" think that everyone knows this unwritten rule, and are therefore not extending proper courtesy by parking a ways away.
Surely it's not a commonly known rule if I've only just heard about it in this thread.
That's really the crux of this entire discussion.
Apparently the "car guys" are all aware of this unwritten rule and all the "non-car guys" are not.
Dinging somebody's car is bad. I'm sure all us "non-car guys" agree with that point. Dinging somebody's car and then not leaving a note is even worse. What I don't understand is why the "car guys" think it's a problem if I happen to park next to them in the unwritten "car guy zone" at the back of the lot. If I ding your door, I'm an a-hole. If I don't ding your door but you still get annoyed because I parked next to you, you're an a-hole.
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I'm sure this has been brought up many times over in this thread already, but in an ideal world, this twitter account would be great.
In reality, it seems like there are a lot of pictures of vehicles parked slightly over the lines in an empty parking lot.
Big deal.
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Everyone has dinged a door at one time or another. I have always been in the enviable position I work in an industry that I can get someones car fixed for $50 through a vendor at a car industry cost. So the couple times I have over the years, I have always waited around. But for people that don't realize a door ding costs $50-100 bucks to fix will lie through their teeth thinking they are going to be out $500.
I park in a condo parkade. And the reject that parks next to me dinged my last GTI with POS dilapidated 1996 Jimmy with his back door. The car was a week old, and I was in Hawaii for 2 weeks, and I always do a quick walk around of my cars before I go away for an extended period. He denied it like I was crazy. The point of his back door lined up exactly with the damage vertically, and horizontally it was within a finger width. It was literally the only make and model of vehicle that could have dented that exact spot with how the rear doors are designed. When I said "Look, you are making your self look like an idiot over $75 bucks, just do the right thing and pay up. You know you did it, I know you did it, and I am on the condo board and have access to the security videos. I'll sift though the last 2 weeks of footage if I have to." It was amazing how quick he paid and all of a sudden "Oh, it's only $75.....well I am pretty sure I didn't but I guess you have a point. It does look like it was my Jimmy. That's only $75?"
The last part of the statement was all but an admission. If I said it was $750, I would still be trying to collect.
