07-19-2022, 09:05 PM
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#2561
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Franchise Player
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Oh great, more of this "also Flames fans" nonsense.
Like all Flames fans say the exact same things, at all times.
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07-19-2022, 09:06 PM
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#2562
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
There is no guarantee Treliving gets the best possible return in any trade. He will try, sure.
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Until (If) a deal is done and allowed to play out, we don’t know what we don’t know.
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07-19-2022, 09:10 PM
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#2563
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think Barzal is a classic bad-team star. He will make some incredible plays, look great at times, and entertain the fans, but the consistency and the ability or desire to do the little things that help you win, are lacking.
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Barzal is a 0.8 PPG player in the regular season who becomes a 0.78 PPG player in the post season.
0.76 PPG over his last two playoffs, when he appeared in 41 games.
I don’t think the Islanders will trade him to us, but if ever there was a player to 1-for-1 this over, it’s Mathew Barzal.
Tkachuk, meanwhile, is a 0.89 PPG player in the regular season, and 0.56 PPG player in the playoffs.
And we could get Barzal for that?
GTFO, Chuckles.
Last edited by GreenLantern2814; 07-19-2022 at 09:13 PM.
Reason: “GTFO, Chuckles”
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07-19-2022, 09:12 PM
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#2564
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First Line Centre
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What a depressing off-season! Losing Gaudreau for nothing. Maybe being forced to trade Tkachuk. Dealing with the possibility that Dube may have been involved in a sexual assault. What else is next?
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07-19-2022, 09:26 PM
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#2565
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
Oh great, more of this "also Flames fans" nonsense.
Like all Flames fans say the exact same things, at all times.
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Like that’s what it says.
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07-19-2022, 09:27 PM
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#2566
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Barzal is a 0.8 PPG player in the regular season who becomes a 0.78 PPG player in the post season.
0.76 PPG over his last two playoffs, when he appeared in 41 games.
I don’t think the Islanders will trade him to us, but if ever there was a player to 1-for-1 this over, it’s Mathew Barzal.
Tkachuk, meanwhile, is a 0.89 PPG player in the regular season, and 0.56 PPG player in the playoffs.
And we could get Barzal for that?
GTFO, Chuckles.
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Well, Chuckie is here to tell you he is a 110 point player.
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07-19-2022, 09:29 PM
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#2568
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
Convince Yzerman to trade Larkin for Tkachuk.
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Doubtful. 25 year old Captain, and local Michigan guy. He's already home.
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07-19-2022, 09:30 PM
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#2569
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonothinman
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Yeah, sign me up. Seems like a pipe dream though.
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"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
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07-19-2022, 09:38 PM
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#2570
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonothinman
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Yup Jersey is my number 1 choice for a trade partner
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07-19-2022, 09:38 PM
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#2571
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonothinman
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Second proposal all day. First and third proposals no thanks.
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07-19-2022, 09:38 PM
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#2572
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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It’s incredible how different the opinions seem to be by other fan bases compared to CP on the trade value of Tkachuk.
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Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
Second proposal all day. First and third proposals no thanks.
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Agreed.
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07-19-2022, 09:39 PM
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#2573
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonothinman
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That sharangovich, holtz, two firsts and a second would be a good deal. The Devils could still easily miss the playoffs this year in the East, which would make the 2023 pick a lottery pick. Holtz was a PPG guy in the AHL last year as a 20 year old and Sharangovich potted 24 goals last year.
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07-19-2022, 09:44 PM
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#2574
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Flames easily. Why the hell are we including Dube. Absolute fleece for the Blues.
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Lol, this site. I don't think the Blues would even even trade Kyrou for Tkachuk one-on-one. He had a monster season and playoffs.
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07-19-2022, 09:44 PM
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#2575
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Yup Jersey doesn’t have much for goaltending. They could still fail to take a step forward this year. I’d want their first round pick.
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07-19-2022, 09:46 PM
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#2576
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
Lol, this site. I don't think the Blues would even even trade Kyrou for Tkachuk one-on-one. He had a monster season and playoffs.
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They would, but I agree they’re closer to equal in trade value than not.
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07-19-2022, 09:59 PM
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#2577
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I don’t think the team is trading him for futures….I think they will still be in win now mode. In my opinion they trade him for a young proven NHLer (in the mid 50-60 point range), an older NHLer to make salary space and a draft pick.
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07-19-2022, 10:06 PM
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#2578
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
Lol, this site. I don't think the Blues would even even trade Kyrou for Tkachuk one-on-one. He had a monster season and playoffs.
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Big deal. He is a scoring winger compared to a 100+ young power forward who is the local boy. If the Blues could get Tkachuk straight up for Kyrou they would be running to the fax machine. I like Kyrou a lot but he doesn't have the tool box of Tkachuk nor the value.
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07-19-2022, 10:20 PM
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#2579
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
If Tkachuk is going to be traded, Tre ( and his staff) will get the best possible return that the market permits.
Market value, with all things considered, will determine the return.
What your expectations are...mean nothing. The player’s market value by the opinion of other teams , as well as their cap space, means everything.
Ask Johnny.
Sometimes, the Star is not as bright , as we’d like.
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For a star like Tkachuk, you SET your price. Ottawa set their price for Stone. Buffalo set their price for Eichel. 3 young assets is the MINIMUM price for a power forward (very rare these days) who scored over 100 points, and is only 24. If you let other teams determine the value of your players, you get Feaster-like returns for your franchise players. Burke and other GM's talk about this all the time, it's standard practice.
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07-19-2022, 10:38 PM
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#2580
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
For a star like Tkachuk, you SET your price. Ottawa set their price for Stone. Buffalo set their price for Eichel. 3 young assets is the MINIMUM price for a power forward (very rare these days) who scored over 100 points, and is only 24. If you let other teams determine the value of your players, you get Feaster-like returns for your franchise players. Burke and other GM's talk about this all the time, it's standard practice.
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You absolutely allow the interested teams to make their best offer....and then choose to deny or accept or negotiate further on their offer.
You do NOT set your price!
That is poor negotiating practice.
Last edited by timbit; 07-19-2022 at 10:41 PM.
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