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Old 10-21-2023, 12:05 PM   #2521
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Show me where I said that.
Still waiting for evidence!

You also said no Hamas in the west bank, when there are multiple terror cells of Hamas in the west bank.
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Old 10-21-2023, 12:09 PM   #2522
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Well apparently this footage isnt real because the guy who posted it is a "dork".

Honestly though, I have just learned about this network of tunnels and all thats associated with them in the last couple weeks. Apparently learning about new things and posting what I have discovered triggers some people.

Oh well.
Nobody said it wasn’t real, it would just be nice if someone so critical of the media could produce a source that wasn’t some random nobody on Twitter or someone guilty of spreading around misinformation for engagement.

Why are you so triggered by someone questioning the source of the “new thing” you “discovered”? Most people would think, “Oh, if that’s a bad source, maybe I’ll go find a better one to confirm it’s authenticity” not “People are BIG MAD I’m LEARNING!”

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Old 10-21-2023, 12:13 PM   #2523
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lol, two in one thread. Awesome.

I wouldn't say the US is occupied on any wars, really. They're on the sidelines of both, but not engaged directly in either. Hopefully it stays that way.

I think your whole take is meaningless because it's based on a totally incorrect foundation. USA doesn't have boots on the ground or planes in the air or tanks on the battlefield in either of these conflicts. They're present becuase fk yeah world police, but they're not mired in anything right now. First time in a while they've had time to kind of regroup and view the world in a sober and somewhat objective way (from their perspective). It's the perfect spot for their military to be in...they can allocate resources to wherever fires are burning hottest and they aren't committed or bogged down anywhere.

Well we know that the US doesn't have boots on the ground at the moment, but if and when this goes a little more sideways, won't this be a problem globally? There has been ample evidence suggesting that NATO partners are critically short on ammo, artillery shells and other pieces of equipment due to the Ukraine war. Now I don't think America is lacking firepower so to speak, lot's of iron in the fire in that military.

I don't have the answers but what we don't need in this world is another war with the middle east , more inflation, higher energy, borrowing costs and more. If this goes sideways, than we all pay for it.
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Old 10-21-2023, 12:19 PM   #2524
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Still waiting for evidence!

You also said no Hamas in the west bank, when there are multiple terror cells of Hamas in the west bank.
Don't deflect from your dishonest statement.
Show me where I said I believed Hamas reports.
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Old 10-21-2023, 12:28 PM   #2525
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Beg to differ but. ... at at the end of the day is a jew vs Muslim war. Isrealies controle some of the most sacred site in the Muslim world and continually raid mosques. Arab muslims don't like that.

You can say it's not whites vs Arabs but it is .. you can say it's not jews vs Arabs but, again it is .
You’re ignoring the Persian Shia Iran vs Arab Sunni Saudis/Egypt/Jordan dynamic at play. The relationship between Israel and the latter has been improving over the last decades, and it looked like they were going to improve further with a new agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia. This would be a major regional setback for Iran, who has long vied with the Saudis as the dominant power. Hence their support for the Oct 7 attacks, and its derailment of those agreements.

The Iran vs Saudi cold war isn’t just a secular geopolitical contest. The mutual hatred between Sunni and Shia is extreme - thousands of Muslims a year are killed in sectarian riots and terror attacks, and tens of thousands a year are killed if you include the proxy war in Yemen.
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Nobody said it wasn’t real, it would just be nice if someone so critical of the media could produce a source that wasn’t some random nobody on Twitter or someone guilty of spreading around misinformation for engagement.

Why are you so triggered by someone questioning the source of the “new thing” you “discovered”? Most people would think, “Oh, if that’s a bad source, maybe I’ll go find a better one to confirm it’s authenticity” not “People are BIG MAD I’m LEARNING!”

lol
And again....what "misinformation exactly? What's the "bad source"

Where is the lie in that video?

Why does it matter a guy YOU don't like, posted it?

I see you have tried to stoop to your bullying ways yet again. Trying to demean people, belittle them, trying to make them think they aren't as intelligent as the fabulously knowledgeable Pepsi.

LOL...wont work on this guy sport, but keep on keepin on, its a great look.
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Old 10-21-2023, 12:38 PM   #2527
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Let me tell you this. The conflict is actually simple. Palestinians want to destroy Israel and rule this land. That's it. That's all you need to know. Long lists of mutual atrocities, historical arguments, legal battles are only mudding the picture. The only purpose of those is to back up the goal of Palestinians, to make it look legit.

So, as long as Palestinians want to destroy Israel, there's nothing Israel can do, short of self-unfolding, to solve the issue. As long, as Palestinians are yearning to have their own state from the river to the sea, there's no path forward. No matter what Israel does.
I guess the counter argument would be that this is what Israelis believe:

There is no Palestine, there never was. This area was always the homeland of the Jews since time before Christ.

Therefore, all the land belongs to them and they are justified in taking it.



Here's a video about a 65 year old Israeli lady taken hostage by Hamas who was rescued after 20 hours. She served the Hamas group food. One said she reminded him of his mother. She sung them Arab songs and they responded with Hebrew ones.

I mean in these conflicts its easy to dehumanize the other side, but these two groups of people share more similarities than differences. Its easier to harden hearts against an enemy when they are seen as a monolithic group rather than individuals.

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Old 10-21-2023, 12:46 PM   #2528
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I guess the counter argument would be that this is what Israelis believe:

There is no Palestine, there never was. This area was always the homeland of the Jews since time before Christ.

Therefore, all the land belongs to them and they are justified in taking it.
Us atheists thank god every day for religion.
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Us atheists thank god every day for religion.
Both religion and tribalism. Two things we could do without. Necessary for group survival in the past, but have become two of our biggest problems in the modern world.
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Old 10-21-2023, 01:22 PM   #2530
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And again....what "misinformation exactly? What's the "bad source"

Where is the lie in that video?

Why does it matter a guy YOU don't like, posted it?

I see you have tried to stoop to your bullying ways yet again. Trying to demean people, belittle them, trying to make them think they aren't as intelligent as the fabulously knowledgeable Pepsi.

LOL...wont work on this guy sport, but keep on keepin on, its a great look.
Cool.

Now, care to answer the question?

Obfuscate all you want, it doesnt change the actual question asked. Not even a little bit cupcake.

You are either unhinged or completely losing touch with reality. But really good rebuttal.

You need a mental health break sweetheart?

Carry on....its amusing.
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Old 10-21-2023, 03:05 PM   #2532
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Horrific, in the protests and rallies it needs to made clear that this is unacceptable.

"The president of a Detroit synagogue was found stabbed to death outside her home Saturday morning, police and the synagogue said."

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/abcnews....3fid=104197780

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Old 10-21-2023, 03:28 PM   #2533
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Horrific, in the protests and rallies it needs to made clear that this is unacceptable.

"The president of a Detroit synagogue was found stabbed to death outside her home Saturday morning, police and the synagogue said."

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/abcnews....3fid=104197780
Ironicly she was also the founder of the Muslim-Jewish Forum of Detroit, an organization created to build better relations between the 2 communities
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Old 10-21-2023, 04:15 PM   #2534
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No idea if the tweeter is a dork or not.

This is in Canada.

Unreal.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1715843298764501047
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No idea if the tweeter is a dork or not.
Looks like he paid for a blue check mark, so yup he is.
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Old 10-21-2023, 05:27 PM   #2536
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People are protesting on a road. This is insane. Why wouldn’t they just use the sidewalk like every other protest????

I bet unions are somehow behind this.

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No idea if the tweeter is a dork or not.

This is in Canada.

Unreal.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1715843298764501047
You would think it's Canada bombing Gaza

If they want a real protest Trudeau should provide flights to Israel for everyone of them.
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No idea if the tweeter is a dork or not.

This is in Canada.

Unreal.
Unreal?

Bunch of people walking up to a police line and chanting.

Guess you missed the trucker's protest last year. Or what is it about the behaviour there and the truckers that is so different?
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Good to see that the police will sometimes actually do their job and stop protesters from blocking roads and major infrastructure and not coddling them. Wish they were more consistent though.
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Unreal?

Bunch of people walking up to a police line and chanting.

Guess you missed the trucker's protest last year. Or what is it about the behaviour there and the truckers that is so different?
As stupid as it was at least the trucker's protest was about something happening in Canada.
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