Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Swift]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Say Alberta did separate, however far-fetched it likely is, how many of you would stay?

If staying meant losing Canadian citizenship, then nope not a chance I'd stay.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Say Alberta did separate, however far-fetched it likely is, how many of you would stay?

#### no

#### that

#### them

[GGG]

If I got dual citizen ship I’d stay until I retired / kids down school after that go back to Canada.

[puffnstuff]

You know that little cloud of dust cartoon characters leave behind when they run off real fast?

Yeah, id leave one of those

[Muta]

I love Alberta, was born here, but I’d be out so quick upon separation. I’m Canadian first and Albertan second.

I also don’t feel ‘hard done by’ by Ottawa, and I’m still trying to figure out why so many people here - living in one of the best countries in the world - seem to think they are. Federal government is the least impactful level of government in my day-to-day life. People should be more concerned with municipal and provincial.

[troutman]

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[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

I've spoken to a couple people who are at least open to the idea of Alberta independence and their vision of an independent Alberta seems to be something like Qatar or UAE: lots of oil money, living like rock stars, no real rules, a government that caters to the them without too many pesky social and legal repercussions. Basically they want to have it all. They are so delusion they are basically children in adult bodies.

I was reading the comments to a Danielle Smith tweet today and they were all from separatists saying pretty much this exact thing.

They are a bunch of angry, stupid people with a very warped view of the current world and Alberta's future in such a scenario.

As for leaving if Alberta separated? In a heartbeat. The country they want is not somewhere I want to live. Just not sure where to go. I'm originally from Saskatchewan and most of my family is there (or Alberta), but it's not somewhere I want to live and there is too much of the same sentiment there.

[Fuzz]

I can only manage to imagine this being a group of 7 or so people who all just keep moving around and changing party names.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Not to mention zero forward thinking. UAE and Qatar have something crucial that Alberta doesn't; Ports to export that oil

And a dictatorship and slavery.

[Slanter]

Originally Posted by Muta

I love Alberta, was born here, but I’d be out so quick upon separation. I’m Canadian first and Albertan second.

I also don’t feel ‘hard done by’ by Ottawa, and I’m still trying to figure out why so many people here - living in one of the best countries in the world - seem to think they are. Federal government is the least impactful level of government in my day-to-day life. People should be more concerned with municipal and provincial.

This is very true, and I don't understand why Canadians get so wrapped up in Federal politics. I think it's mostly a warped form of entertainment.

[puffnstuff]

Because 'someone' says everything bad is the feds fault?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

And a dictatorship and slavery.

That's not a negative for these people, as long as the dictator is white and hates the people you hate.

They'd be happy if there was never another election here because it means the UCP stays in power

[The Yen Man]

If Alberta were to separate, I'd be out of here too, most likely you'd see a big exodus to the other prairie provinces.

[fotze2]

Y'all ain't going anywhere. Like the Righties leaving Canada when Carney won, like lefties when Conservative won, like Righties when Notley won, like Lefties when Trump won twice, Like Righties when Obama won.

If we separate, I plan on putting a watermelon in my arse on top of the Calgary Tower.

Bold proclamations when the thing (separation) has zero chance of happening.

[Wormius]

It’s not as onerous to leave Alberta than it is to leave the country. Alberta would basically be left with people who have no ties anywhere else in the country.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Wormius

It’s not as onerous to leave Alberta than it is to leave the country. Alberta would basically be left with people who have no ties anywhere else in the country.

Ya but its not happening so why fantasize about scenarios made up in your head. If I grew two more dinks, what would I do, how would that play out?

[Johnny Makarov]

How can anyone not just punch Smith in the face?

Was watching the news about the UCP fundraiser in Calgary yesterday with his crap ass fake smug smile makes me want to vomit.

It was record breaking.... deplorable Calgarians.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Y'all ain't going anywhere. Like the Righties leaving Canada when Carney won, like lefties when Conservative won, like Righties when Notley won, like Lefties when Trump won twice, Like Righties when Obama won.

If we separate, I plan on putting a watermelon in my arse on top of the Calgary Tower.

Bold proclamations when the thing (separation) has zero chance of happening.

I don't think these situations are comparable. One is an election, and they tend to swing left and right over time. The other is the promise of removing all the benefits of being Canadian while signing up for a CCP like government for life(if you don't believe they'd gerrymander the #### out of everything to maintain power art all costs, I've got a few bridges in my shop-bring your cheque book).


I'd be ####in' gone, because at my age and health, sticking around to see if a break off landlocked nation can evolve into a place of stability and prosperity while being based on bull#### and fantasy isn't really a thing I'd be excited to experience in person.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I don't think these situations are comparable. One is an election, and they tend to swing left and right over time. The other is the promise of removing all the benefits of being Canadian while signing up for a CCP like government for life(if you don't believe they'd gerrymander the #### out of everything to maintain power art all costs, I've got a few bridges in my shop-bring your cheque book).


I'd be ####in' gone, because at my age and health, sticking around to see if a break off landlocked nation can evolve into a place of stability and prosperity while being based on bull#### and fantasy isn't really a thing I'd be excited to experience in person.

I can see BC from my house. Easy move.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Y'all ain't going anywhere. Like the Righties leaving Canada when Carney won, like lefties when Conservative won, like Righties when Notley won, like Lefties when Trump won twice, Like Righties when Obama won.

If we separate, I plan on putting a watermelon in my arse on top of the Calgary Tower.

Bold proclamations when the thing (separation) has zero chance of happening.

I already left.

Is it THE reason we left? No. But it was certainly one of the things that made staying unattractive.