11-25-2024, 09:01 AM
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#2481
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by cam_calderon
The relationship is at an all-time low, I think. What would the cost be?
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It might cost the Flames more to have him on the roster than the assets needed to bring him in.
Lots of red flags (nothing proven 100%) for me.
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11-25-2024, 09:07 AM
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#2482
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I know Trouba wouldn’t waive but he would be a great cap dump for us if we got assets along with him. Signed through 25/26 is perfect for our “retool” and that cap space to the rangers should be so valuable. He’d also be a great prick to add to a lineup full of younger players, line him up with Parekh on our 3rd pairing next year.
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11-25-2024, 09:07 AM
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#2483
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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The fans laughing and clapping and taking pictures of passed-out Kochetkov…
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11-25-2024, 09:33 AM
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#2484
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Why does it have to be a F?
Flames have assets now.
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Sorry, misunderstood.
Agree that if there is a trade for a young C to be had, Andersson is the most likely candidate.
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11-25-2024, 09:47 AM
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#2485
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by TOfan
Sorry, misunderstood.
Agree that if there is a trade for a young C to be had, Andersson is the most likely candidate.
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Could you not also take on a bad contract and or add in one of our late first rounders or a package of picks, a contender that has a young C in their system may see his development not fitting their window and value the cap flexibility.
Probably many ways. Agree that probably the best way to secure a young C from a contender is likely trading our most valuable chip in Andersson, I guess depends on who, which C and the other team’s requirements.
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11-25-2024, 09:57 AM
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#2486
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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A Trouba for Andersson trade is enticing if Trouba was willing to waive and the Rangers were willing to pay the price to dump that contract and replace him with the much better Anderssson. The amount of picks and prospects the Rangers would have to part with to make that deal work could be huge for the Flames rebuild. I would be looking for a good young player, top prospect and multiple draft picks in return to send our top asset out while eating a bad contract in return.
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11-25-2024, 10:13 AM
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#2487
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by BrownDrake
Could you not also take on a bad contract and or add in one of our late first rounders or a package of picks, a contender that has a young C in their system may see his development not fitting their window and value the cap flexibility.
Probably many ways. Agree that probably the best way to secure a young C from a contender is likely trading our most valuable chip in Andersson, I guess depends on who, which C and the other team’s requirements.
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Yes, agreed. That could be a path. I could see Conroy packaging some picks for a young (under 23) year old prospect. That would fit the bill in terms of what the Flames have said and executed. They’ve also let it be known they would take contracts.
Have to wonder though, which team might be on position to A) want to dump a contract B) has a young C that may be buried. I’m not sure if I see a clear candidate. Also, does Zary’s move to C change anything?
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11-25-2024, 10:15 AM
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#2488
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
A Trouba for Andersson trade is enticing if Trouba was willing to waive and the Rangers were willing to pay the price to dump that contract and replace him with the much better Anderssson. The amount of picks and prospects the Rangers would have to part with to make that deal work could be huge for the Flames rebuild. I would be looking for a good young player, top prospect and multiple draft picks in return to send our top asset out while eating a bad contract in return.
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Can’t see this happening. Troba’s wife is a Dr. or finishing her residency in NY. I can’t imagine he’d waiver to come to Calgary.
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11-25-2024, 10:19 AM
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#2489
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by TOfan
Can’t see this happening. Troba’s wife is a Dr. or finishing her residency in NY. I can’t imagine he’d waiver to come to Calgary.
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Agreed I see no way he leaves NY where they have aspirations for a cup to western Canada and a team in a re-something.
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11-25-2024, 10:37 AM
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#2490
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Franchise Player
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Trouba wont waive his NMC unless its to an American destination of his choosing, and even then he was very adamant about staying previously due to his wife's residency as others suggested.
He's definitely not playing in Canada again, I don't see a market that would entice him.
I don't see Calgary in any on of the NYR vet's which is the type of players the Ranger's are looking to move.
I know CGY was calling on Kakko in the summer, but nothing came to fruition.
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11-25-2024, 10:43 AM
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#2491
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
It might cost the Flames more to have him on the roster than the assets needed to bring him in.
Lots of red flags (nothing proven 100%) for me.
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Do the Flames have a need for an offensive center who does not play defence and has never really shown the ability at any level to produce offence at an elite level? I would pass just on the players ability, let alone the red flags.
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11-25-2024, 10:47 AM
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#2492
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Trouba wont waive his NMC unless its to an American destination of his choosing, and even then he was very adamant about staying previously due to his wife's residency as others suggested.
He's definitely not playing in Canada again, I don't see a market that would entice him.
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He wouldn't even waive to go to his home town Red Wings in the offseason. And when you hear the story about how ecstatic he and his wife were to get traded out of Winnipeg, there is no way he waives to go to another Western Canadian city. Granted, Calgary is a better city to live in than Winnipeg, but they are closer than say New York and Calgary. As some one else mentioned, and big part of that was also how being so far from the east coast was difficult for his wife's career.
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11-25-2024, 10:50 AM
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#2493
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Do the Flames have a need for an offensive center who does not play defence and has never really shown the ability at any level to produce offence at an elite level? I would pass just on the players ability, let alone the red flags.
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Agreed. If we contrast with Cozens, I don't think you have the same risk factors with him. There's never been any smoke about Cozens having attitude issues or not working hard. In fact his compete is one of his strengths.
So that's the guy I would take a chance on IF he's even available.
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11-25-2024, 11:13 AM
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#2494
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Agreed. If we contrast with Cozens, I don't think you have the same risk factors with him. There's never been any smoke about Cozens having attitude issues or not working hard. In fact his compete is one of his strengths.
So that's the guy I would take a chance on IF he's even available.
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Conroy's a centre (and one who played top line with a relatively moderate skill set) so he knows the job. I think it may be why he's been so free at grabbing D and wingers he likes but not so many centres. It may be that he's more exacting for that position.
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11-25-2024, 11:22 AM
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#2495
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Conroy's a centre (and one who played top line with a relatively moderate skill set) so he knows the job. I think it may be why he's been so free at grabbing D and wingers he likes but not so many centres. It may be that he's more exacting for that position.
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They are also way harder to trade for
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11-25-2024, 12:02 PM
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#2496
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Is there a reason Cozens name keeps getting floated on this board?
Like an article or tweet from someone saying he may be on the outs?
Or was this just fan manufactured trying to connect some strength/weakness with opposing teams?
I ask only because Im not sure the last time the Sabres were in a playoff spot come US Thanksgiving, but its pretty likely that will be the case this year.
And also because Cozens has all the tools to be a very good to great C in this league as long as he is handled properly and given time to grow into it.
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11-25-2024, 12:05 PM
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#2497
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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This is what happens when good teams lose to the Oilers. Completely unacceptable! Heads will roll!!
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11-25-2024, 12:08 PM
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#2498
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Originally Posted by activeStick
This is what happens when good teams lose to the Oilers. Completely unacceptable! Heads will roll!!
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I watched some of that game. the Rangers were beyond horse####.
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11-25-2024, 12:13 PM
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#2499
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by TOfan
Can’t see this happening. Troba’s wife is a Dr. or finishing her residency in NY. I can’t imagine he’d waiver to come to Calgary.
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People need to understand there's a reason players get NTC and Trouba has a large 15 team no-trade list that likely includes all the Canadian teams as a starting point.
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11-25-2024, 12:32 PM
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#2500
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Bonded
They are also way harder to trade for
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True.
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