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Old 10-14-2016, 11:31 PM   #2441
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Maybe it's just me, but wanting a future that will undoubtedly be worse for women, minorities, etc. all because you think it's a hilarious way to troll college-age liberals is kinda repugnant.
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I started to read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius this week (hence the AV) and there's a line that seems particularly fitting in the context of this thread.

"The object of life is not to stand on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
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I'll repost this because that guys thoughts represent the core of Trump supporters (although this woman is at another level). But yeah Illiminaughty is obviously a Trump supporter, he believes almost everything they do

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Wait a minute, so you think that corporations could get away with paying women less who are equally as qualified as men, to do the same job? Why don't we see civil suits in mass then? That's discrimination. You can't be serious.

It's a skewed statistic, men work more because women choose to stay home and raise children more often, also factor in maternity leave.
Never married women with no children working full time earn less than men working the same job with the same performance and experience.

Even more, minorities make less than an equivalent white person. Women 15-24 entering the workforce earn less then males entering the workforce at the same age and experience. You may want to explain it away by claiming apples and oranges but unfortunately comparing apples to apples also shows the inequality.
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Local PDs, the FBI and the Justice Department could have a very tough job election day if the Trump cult comes out en masse like this lunatic. But yeah their anger is definitely about "sending the elites a message" and not "non-white people scare me to death". Bonus: Speak American!!!!




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Maybe it's just me, but wanting a future that will undoubtedly be worse for women, minorities, etc. all because you think it's a hilarious way to troll college-age liberals is kinda repugnant.
Women, minorities, etc.? Try everyone.

It's sort of like a new kind of nihilism.
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Any evidence of this? Because this is totally illegal.
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Women, minorities, etc.? Try everyone.

It's sort of like a new kind of nihilism.

Any evidence of this? Because this is totally illegal.
You are assuming the same company would be doing this but that isn't necessarily true (though can happen based on women being less likely to renegotiate initial wages and raises). But men are preferentially hired over women and as a result tend to be hired into the better higher paying jobs preferentially so you get a wage gap. This isn't an internal company thing but an overall market trend thing. There is also a disproportionately large penalty paid by women for family time off that doesn't account for the entire wage gap as experience is gained.


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Any evidence of this? Because this is totally illegal.
There's tonnes of evidence.
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There's tonnes of evidence.
Surprised more companies aren't just hiring 100% women if they can immediately save 20% on payroll.
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"Hillary Clinton should have been prosecuted and should be in jail. Instead she is running for president in what looks like a rigged election" - Trump's twitter.

I hope regular republicans remember Ryan's silence, the inaction of their leadership ("Oh I think he's saying terrible things but I still endorse him") when violence breaks out over this, because it will.
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"Hillary Clinton should have been prosecuted and should be in jail. Instead she is running for president in what looks like a rigged election" - Trump's twitter.

I hope regular republicans remember Ryan's silence, the inaction of their leadership ("Oh I think he's saying terrible things but I still endorse him") when violence breaks out over this, because it will.
Agreed. The spinelessness and lack of principle show by Ryan, Cruz, Christie, Giuliani, and many other Republicans should doom or cap their future careers.

I hope, despite all the Trump absurdity, President Clinton doesn't dismiss the anger of his supporters however. Their grievances are poorly articulated and their rage is often misdirected, but their situation is deteriorating, and politics as usual in the US will only continue that nation's decline (insofar as the lower-middle class is concerned). She needs to show some leadership to prevent this, and I'm not sure she's the least bit inclined towards such changes.
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She needs to show some leadership to prevent this, and I'm not sure she's the least bit inclined towards such changes.
She has been talking a lot about healing the divide recently during her campaigning.. And whether one believes that she truly does desire that or is more cynical and think it's just the best response to what Trump is saying I don't think even matters.

First black president, first woman president, I don't think it'll matter what she tries to do in terms of bringing people together.

Unless tries some something really radical like getting corporate money out of government.
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I bet this would have done wonders for Trump's polling if he'd done this instead.

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She has been talking a lot about healing the divide recently during her campaigning.. And whether one believes that she truly does desire that or is more cynical and think it's just the best response to what Trump is saying I don't think even matters.

First black president, first woman president, I don't think it'll matter what she tries to do in terms of bringing people together.

Unless tries some something really radical like getting corporate money out of government.
Yes, I've heard her talk, but I suspect it's largely lip-service in much the same way that her nods to some of Bernie's policies are unlikely to result in any corresponding priorities in her administration.

I expect there will be a pretty violent response in some areas to her victory, and the intrigue will continue for weeks after election day with rallies and complaints that it was all rigged. And hopefully that's all it comes to. But the table will be set for the same thing again in 4 years unless some tangible changes come out of her presidency. Of course, it's not all up to her - I'm sure Obama had lots of things on his agenda that died on the vine thanks to Republican obstruction. Still, even if she can change the national conversation it would help to avoid some ugly scenes somewhere down the line.
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Agree. If she doesn't somehow get things going in a better direction it will be the same thing in 4 years. Hopefully the other side sees that as well and works with her to improve that image.

Netflix's first and last fake presidential debate. NSFW language.

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Video of Trump: "We should take a drug test" before debates, because "I don't know what's going on" with Clinton.

https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/stat...36368196194305

EDIT: Jeff Sessions: “They are attempting to rig this election"
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