12-21-2022, 11:40 AM
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#221
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by SebC
Huberdeau's distinguishing skill is finding passing lanes to his linemates from the wing. I don't think you want to make him do it with his backhand. Whereas the big body who can protect the puck would be even better able to carry it across the goalie on his forehand.
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He would not do it on his backhand, I imagine he would do something similar to what Tkachuk did last year. Where he would be sideways to receive the pass on his forehand and quickly pass that to Johnny.
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12-21-2022, 11:45 AM
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#222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malcolmk14
Huberdeau has 13 points in 13 games and is +3
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Gross those are like McDavid numbers.
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12-21-2022, 11:47 AM
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#223
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
Gross those are like McDavid numbers.
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Remember the Flames had a long losing streak in that stretch...best plus/minus forward on the team
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12-21-2022, 11:50 AM
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#224
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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We need to trade selfish players like that.
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12-21-2022, 12:45 PM
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#225
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by CrazyCaper
Amazing day all around. Flames win 7-3 and we welcomed our newest son into the world this afternoon. Happy Birthday Owen, world's newest Flames fan.
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Great name! I had a son back in October also named Owen which was blessed by a Flames win against Edmonton  when an Owen is born good things happen for this team
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12-21-2022, 12:47 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
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some interesting movement in the Calgary Flames all time leader board last night
most notably Elias Lindholm drew even with Makarov last night and is now 3 points behind Gilmour. Craig Conroy and top 20 alltime is 16 points away
a few interesting things further down the list, Dube drove past Lydman and Mike Eaves and into a tie with Jiri Hrdina- look out Stephane Yelle, Jay bo and Jamie Hislop!
and Loooch moved into the top 100 with his 72nd Flames point, sneaking past Chris Clark and into a tie with Tony Amonte. Clarke Wilm and Perry Berezan are now up
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12-21-2022, 01:00 PM
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#227
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Might actually help him as he button hooks a lot.
Would put his outside spin-o-rama on his forehand.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Naitix
He would not do it on his backhand, I imagine he would do something similar to what Tkachuk did last year. Where he would be sideways to receive the pass on his forehand and quickly pass that to Johnny.
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Went through this video of all of Huberdeau's 2021-2022 primary points and categorized them as fairly as I could. Based on the "lane" he was filling during the play, so if he came in from the right, carried the puck across the goalie and score from the left that counts as RW.
Here are the results:
A few notes:
- Many of his goals on the left came off forehand passes that were returned back to him.
- Most of his RW points came at the start of the season, and at the end.
- On his right, he makes approx 2/3rds of his passes forehand and 1/3rd backhand. Forehands slow the play down (which can be good if he needs to wait for trailers).
- His goals per primary point is higher on the left than on the right (40% vs 28%).
- He scored twice as many primary points on the left as on the right.
Obviously this analysis misses out on the denominators, so take it with a grain of salt.
Last edited by SebC; 12-21-2022 at 01:09 PM.
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12-21-2022, 01:32 PM
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#228
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
He's doing it so "quietly". Is this what we're supposed to expect from him? A lot of points but not looking like the guy who carries the team on his back? I expected to notice him as a dominant offensive force who carries the team's offense. He's not looking like that but has been getting points the past few weeks.
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If this team goes anywhere it's going to be Kadri and Tanev carrying the team on their backs.
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12-21-2022, 01:50 PM
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#229
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by indes
Hey! We just had our newest son last night as well!
Baby Knox gives a nod to baby Owen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCaper
Amazing day all around. Flames win 7-3 and we welcomed our newest son into the world this afternoon. Happy Birthday Owen, world's newest Flames fan.
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10 months ago on Feb 19, 2022. The Flames beat the Kraken 2-1. Tkachuk and Lindhlom were not the only two that scored that night.
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12-21-2022, 02:18 PM
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#230
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
- He scored twice as many primary points on the left as on the right.
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I wonder what was his time-on-ice on LW vs RW was last season
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12-21-2022, 03:00 PM
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#231
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Franchise Player
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With all the talk about chemistry, new systems, needing time to gel, etc., thought I'd take a quick look at how some of the forwards are doing now, as opposed to the first 20. Here is what it looks like:
Player: pts (1st-20), PPG / pts (next-13), PPG
Hubs: 9, 0.53 / 13, 1.00
Lind: 16, 0.80 / 14, 1.17
Kadi: 15, 0.75 / 11, 0.85
Toff.: 13, 0.65 / 13, 1.00
Mang: 7, 0.35 / 7,.. 0.54
Dube: 6, 0.30 / 13, 1.00
every single top 6 guy has picked it up, with the average rising from 0.56 to 0.93 PPG, pace: 46, 76 pts
Back: 9, 0.45 / 9, 0.69
Cole: 9, 0.45 / 3, 0.23
Ruzi: 8, 0.80 / 10, 0.77
3rd line averages: 0.57, 0.56, pace: 46, 46
Lewi: 6, 0.30 / 5, 0.38
Luci: 5, 0.25 / 5, 0.50
Rich: 6, 0.33 / 1, 0.14
4th line averages: 0.29, 0.34, pace: 24, 28
The top 6 had a slow first-20, but have picked it up to almost what you would expect from them.
The 3rd line is doing their job (no surprise)
The 4th line is doing their job
Individually, everyone looks fine in the 2nd quarter, except Mangiapane (trending in the right direction) and Coleman (has slipped)
Overall, pretty good. And the results also reflect positive trending but not there yet:
1st 20.: 9-8-3, 0.525
2nd 20: 6-4-3, 0.577
get her up to .600 and we're good
I know some will say the recent numbers are inflated, playing SJS twice - sure, but overall, the schedule has still been tougher than league average. In 20-game segments, you take it as it is, and the bottom line is that the 2nd quarter has been better.
IMO, the LA game tomorrow night is the biggest game of the year so far. LAK is 6 games over 0.500 and the Flames are 3 games over. Win in regulation, and it's 5 and 4 and we have essentially caught them. Lose, and it's 7 and 2, and they remain in full control of their playoff spot. The Flames need to string some wins together to get the season into gear, and to send a message to the other western conference teams that they are going to be part of the playoff picture. A win tomorrow gets everyone's attention.
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12-21-2022, 05:32 PM
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#232
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csnarpy
Ah yes, that’s the Sharks I remember..

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That game 6 was awesome just a flawless shutdown 3-1 win
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12-21-2022, 06:22 PM
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#233
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Franchise Player
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The upcoming LA game will be a good benchmark for the Flames. Hopefully they can maintain what they were building in San Jose. Consistency is one of the bigger problems with this years team. They are going to have to overcome those issues if they want to make the playoffs and make any noise when they get there.
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12-21-2022, 07:19 PM
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#234
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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12-22-2022, 06:22 PM
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#235
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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wow oiler fans very salty in the ATL parentally we have no star players? imo scoring over 100points makes you a superstar player, Huby is a star, just having a time with the huge change.
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12-22-2022, 06:23 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
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he's doing better than at this point last season? so awesome
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12-25-2022, 05:43 AM
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#237
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
The Sharks were abysmal for a lot of their history, yet their average attendance since 1993? Amazing.
93 - 16537
94 - 17190
95 - 17190
96 - 17420
97 - 17111
98 - 16903
99 - 17290
00 - 17468
01 - 17422
02 - 17350
03 - 15835 (ironically when they went to the finals)
05 - 16831
06 - 17422
07 - 17411
skip...bunch of 17+
2018 - 17266
2019 - 16428
2021 - 12574 (pandemic capacity restrictions)
2022 - 13640 (pandemic capacity restrictions)
Sorry for the long form, attendance laden post, but I get triggered by canadian fans flippantly writing off southern US fans as fair weather when they're often not at all.
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The Sharks didn't make the playoffs in 2003. They went to the SC Final in 2016.
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