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kaddy · 07-20-2022, 01:14 PM

Why would Sutter stay with this team, the guy wants to win and doesn't need the money.

Scary Eloranta · 07-20-2022, 01:15 PM

This franchise is cursed. I don't see why anyone good would want to come here at this point. Maybe they will pack things up and move after all?

Jiri Hrdina · 07-20-2022, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

We are getting raked in all social media. The whole league is just laughing their asses off at our fanbase. And I can't blame them. What an unmitigated disaster this offseason has been.

Free advice: don't let what is said on social media including about the team you randomly chose to root for impact you. It doesn't matter.

PeteMoss · 07-20-2022, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iggyloob12

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549827857786052609

This would lead me to believe the Flames are leaking the list of teams. Let the Blues know they aren't the only bidder here.

djsFlames · 07-20-2022, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonded

Guess he ain't going to St Louis then

Blues can pound sand if they think they can lowball.

Send him to a basement club, I say!

Jiri Hrdina · 07-20-2022, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I actually felt the reason the matched up poorly against the Oilers was more based on how poor the defense has defended McDavid and goaltending in general seems to be mediocre/poor when the two teams face each other. Not sure if losing Gaudreau and Tkachuk changes any of that.

For me it was about that they couldn't seem to stop McDavid consistently probably due to the poor team speed overall. Losing Tanev then tipped it over further. I didn't anticipate the poor goaltending.
I was also worried about how the season long lobbying by the Oilers would impact how the games were called.

kevman · 07-20-2022, 01:17 PM

It stings and I really liked both players but part of me feels this is a blessing in disguise.

Now the ability for the Flames management to capitalize on this opportunity is a whole other story.

GioforPM · 07-20-2022, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

Blues can pound sand if they think they can lowball.

Send him to a basement club, I say!

Well not Ottawa. Too much family reunion. I will say there might be some clubs who think they can sign him even if they're not on the list. There are no legal restrictions on where he goes.

CalgaryFan1988 · 07-20-2022, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Well I would like to know why.

His brother signed in OTT so it’s not a Canadian thing.

Maybe his plan was dependent on Gaudreau’s decision.

Wow this seems unprecedented.

Matt is not his brother, the two have different opinions. It was pretty common knowledge that Matt wasn't going to re-sign in Calgary, he took the quickest option to Free Agency.

Royle9 · 07-20-2022, 01:17 PM

Not a single forward out there yet AVAILABLE that plays like Tkachuk.
80+ pt poward forward with a nasty edge and silky hands.

I'm so sad to be losing him, but we should get a kings RANSOME for Tkachuk.
For those saying Eichel return, I'd argue Tkachuk is significantly more valuable because of all the intangibles let alone the career points.

Better be an insane haul.

Next up - Hanifin

I doubt Coronato signs.

We are in big trouble, this franchise is not trending well.

PegCityFlamesFan · 07-20-2022, 01:17 PM

Hey at least Tkachuck is giving a list of teams and not having his agent leak that he only wants Montreal like the ###### nozzle Dubois.

mile · 07-20-2022, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kaddy

Why would Sutter stay with this team, the guy wants to win and doesn't need the money.

Has a long-standing personal relationship with ownership.

If he doesn't want to coach, I hope he still stays on as an advisor or scout. Even in a rebuild, this organization is better with him than without.

rhino · 07-20-2022, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Probably deserves its own thread:

https://theathletic.com/news/tkachuk.../pH0rzGF2cZYs/

Florida out… no 1st round pick for the next 2 drafts.

jg13 · 07-20-2022, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kaddy

Why would Sutter stay with this team, the guy wants to win and doesn't need the money.

would not surprise me one bit if he stepped down. there's literally no reason for him to be here if they're not going to be competing for a cup. might be waiting to see the return we get first. we will see

DoubleK · 07-20-2022, 01:19 PM

With the stroke of Johnny's pen, Calgary became Columbus.

This can't be happening.

djsFlames · 07-20-2022, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

What a ####ing clown.

Good riddance.

Turns out both guys were entitled af.

Weren't invested in what the team spent huge money and put a lot of effort to try to accomplish.

Me, me, me.

If you want to win I don't know why you bail on a Sutter team that was set up really well to make another go at it next season.

They prefer comfort to milking the prime of their careers playing on the best 200 foot line in decades.

Inglewood Jack · 07-20-2022, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I actually felt the reason the matched up poorly against the Oilers was more based on how poor the defense has defended McDavid and goaltending in general seems to be mediocre/poor when the two teams face each other. Not sure if losing Gaudreau and Tkachuk changes any of that.

we couldn't stop them from scoring, so often our only option was to score even more goals against their sad defense and goaltending. now we still have the same back-end that McD can feast on, plus it just got a lot harder to keep up on the offense.

I'm ready for the slog of a rebuild, but BoA's for the next few years might be the most annoying part of it all.

Muffins · 07-20-2022, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by iggyloob12

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549827857786052609

I get STL not entertaining Thomas as a piece, but if neither of the other two are involved you ain't getting a sniff at MT.

tvp2003 · 07-20-2022, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Meh I'm bored of this current edition of the team. I'm excited for some change and what happens next.
As Miller said, do we really think this team was going to win a cup with 20M+ tied up in Tkachuk and Johnny?
I'm ready for something new.

Last season was great (save for the last four games of Round 2) but I'm starting to come around to what the future might hold. Leaving aside regular season success, the previous core didn't do enough while 13/19 were being paid $14M let alone $20M+.

HighLifeMan · 07-20-2022, 01:19 PM

Brady signed in Ottawa because the contract they gave him takes him to UFA at age 27/28 and paid him 58M in guaranteed money for a player who at the time had a career high of 45 points.. It was a no brainer business decision. The Tkachuk's have and always will treat the game as a business first and foremost. Matthew is looking to maximize his earnings potential after what will very likely be his best statistical season. It's not a coincidence that the teams listed are tax free states, or his hometown.