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Old 09-11-2020, 11:07 AM   #221
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Still they have to win this year because they aren't set up for long term success so it's win now at all costs then dealing with the fallout as opposed to building an annual contender such as the Lightning. I prefer the latter approach which wouldn't include overpaying Comeau and Cogliano or even Pavelski as this conversation could look a lot different next year or the year after.
Well the lightning have to win too or who cares...SJ was great for a decade but I'm sure they would trade it for one cup year. Also, they are about to have major cap problems.
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Old 09-11-2020, 11:23 AM   #222
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Going by the rule book it shouldn't have been a goal IMO...the rule itself is a debate for another day. I have seen that play called back multiple times...crease is irrelevant the attacking player has to avoid contacting the goalie especially coming from behind the net.
no it isn't
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Old 09-11-2020, 01:12 PM   #223
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no it isn't
Player has to do everything in their power to avoid contact with the goalie no matter where he is...it's in the rule book
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Player has to do everything in their power to avoid contact with the goalie no matter where he is...it's in the rule book
Contact has to also be a reason that a goalie can't make a save. It's not just any contact.
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Old 09-11-2020, 01:30 PM   #225
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I've seen less called back... especially since the puck went in off the guy who knocked the goalie over. This idea that it doesn't matter if you bump the goalie outside the crease is false though...announcers have made it a thing but that isn't the rule.

Anyway, doesn't matter now...until next coin flip to decide a playoff game
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Old 09-11-2020, 01:35 PM   #226
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Player has to do everything in their power to avoid contact with the goalie no matter where he is...it's in the rule book
This is not an exact, or thorough, representation of the rules.
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Old 09-11-2020, 01:36 PM   #227
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I've seen less called back... especially since the puck went in off the guy who knocked the goalie over. This idea that it doesn't matter if you bump the goalie outside the crease is false though...announcers have made it a thing but that isn't the rule.

Anyway, doesn't matter now...until next coin flip to decide a playoff game
He didn't 'knock the goalie over'. Their legs touched and then he did a pirouette afterwards to try and get a call.

What you're missing about the crease is that the incident is (and should be) judged differently if outside the crease.
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Here's exactly what the rule book says...

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Incidental contact with a goalkeeper will be permitted, and resulting goals allowed, when such contact is initiated outside of the goal crease, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.
"A reasonable effort" is not the same as "everything in their power".
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Old 09-11-2020, 02:10 PM   #229
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Here's exactly what the rule book says...



"A reasonable effort" is not the same as "everything in their power".
It is when someone is judging you by trying to determine what you meant/tried to do by visual means only.
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Old 09-12-2020, 03:01 PM   #230
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Game 3 final score
Stars 3 Knights 2 in overtime
The Stars lead the series 2-1


Post game links
https://scores.nbcsports.com/nhl/rec...=58&final=true
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2020/09/10...ds-series-2-1/
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/st...in-over-vegas/
https://www.knightsonice.com/2020/9/...ils-series-2-1
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...ights-2116175/
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...eries-2115967/
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Old 09-12-2020, 03:09 PM   #231
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Game 4 preview links
1800h on CBC and NBC
http://sportsstats.cbc.ca/hockey/nhl...preview_1.html
http://sportsstats.cbc.ca/hockey/nhl...summary_1.html
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...4-clash-stars/
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...ts-strike-back
https://scores.nbcsports.com/nhl/pre...&home=9&vis=58
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2020/09/12...ference-final/




Sportsnet 650 is carrying the game from the beginning, 960 will join in progress after the Blue Jays game.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:20 PM   #232
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Big game tonight. I think whoever wins tonight, ends up taking the series.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:25 PM   #233
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I hate Comeau. Can’t put my finger on why. Maybe because he sucked on the flames and is dirty. Just a plug. If he were in beer league he’d be the guy running guys.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:26 PM   #234
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Khudobin is looking solid so far. I think he has gotten stronger as the playoffs have gone on. May also be that the rest of the team has gotten more comfortable with playing to his strengths in net.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:37 PM   #235
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This Dallas PP, not NYI bad but Seguin is doing his best to try and get it there.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:55 PM   #236
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I think back to whoever on CP posted the gif of the incredulous look on Khudobin’s face when Calgary scores and I chuckle. Am ok with him. At this point in the playoffs it’s becoming more about players I like or dislike vs teams.
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Dallas getting hammered on the shot clock again so far.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:57 PM   #238
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Heiskanen is so good defensively, as well as his offensive prowess.
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Dallas getting hammered on the shot clock again so far.
Vegas must have the lowest shooting percentage in the playoffs. If they had a couple snipers, they would be lethal.
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Old 09-12-2020, 07:11 PM   #240
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Vegas also shoots from everywhere which is a factor
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