Brexit- Update: Britain has voted to leave the EU

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by peter12

You guys, the UK functioned before the European Union.

No it didn't, the country was falling apart, I know I lived there.

Let me tell you the story of the B series engine developed after the war by Austin Motors, it was a nice little 4 cylinder that they developed in the late fourties, engineers from Nissan came over to learn about car production and liscensed the design, it was one of the foundations of their rebuilding after the war, eventually Nissan designed better engines and by the late sixties was just using the venerable A frame for a few delivery vehicles.
Austin, by now called British Leyland continued to use the same engine design until they went bankrupt in the 2000's, the reason for the bankruptcy was the massive rise of import Japanese cars.

[nemanja2306]

Good riddance, EU.

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[Senator Clay Davis]

I was kinda hoping Cameron would call a snap election, immediately resign and let Boris deal with the fallout. You would think he will probably be the new PM.

[Looch City]

When will the riots start? Or is that if the vote was Stay?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Once the exit package is negotiated, there is speculation that the government may throw it to a referendum once again saying this is what you're wanting?

The rest of the EU is going to shiv the Brits hard. They are not going to get any favourability whatsoever as a deterrent to other countries that attempt to follow suit.

I was listening to BBC radio on the drive in this morning, and one of the guys they were interviewing was talking about a rise in anti-EU sentiment throughout Europe. There seems to be a growing discontent with how Brussels stands above the local governments, and the guy flat out said the EU has to reconsider how it operates, or the entire thing could collapse.

If this is accurate, then the EU itself has to tread carefully. Even without that, for the EU to 'shiv' Britain would be counterproductive. They are still a financial power within Europe, and it would make no sense to cut off their nose to spite their face.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by peter12

It is absolutely his fault. What an utter lack of statesmanship from this goof. This is his legacy.

How so?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Cameron is resigning as PM.

I don't blame him. It's not his fault the people decided to jump off a bridge economically. Why ruin your legacy with the destruction of the economy when you did nothing wrong.

Another tidbit from this morning's BBC: Cameron locked himself in a box by promising this referendum in a bid to "spike UKIP's guns". The Conservatives were losing support, and he agreed to this in order to remain in power. And Cameron led the remain campaign. So yeah, he's the one who is going to take the fall for it, and the fallout from yesterday will most definitely be Cameron's legacy.

[sureLoss]

I wonder how many people made some big money shorting the GBP last night.

[Senator Clay Davis]

[devo22]

incredibly stupid decision, I still can't believe it. They're going to regret this big time in a couple of years.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by devo22

incredibly stupid decision, I still can't believe it. They're going to regret this big time in a couple of years.

Will they?

There are a lot of doomsdayers on here.

It would have been the same but the other side had the results been flipped.

Voter turnout was enormous. Democracy prevailed. The status quo was not working for a majority of voters.

The country needs to get the anger out of their system in the next day or two and then come together for the next step moving forward.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I was listening to BBC radio on the drive in this morning, and one of the guys they were interviewing was talking about a rise in anti-EU sentiment throughout Europe. There seems to be a growing discontent with how Brussels stands above the local governments, and the guy flat out said the EU has to reconsider how it operates, or the entire thing could collapse.

I believe this is very much true. EU is certainly facing a lot of criticism and the number of supporters it has seems to be diminishing.

Various nationalist groups have always hated EU, but after the fiasco that has been the handling of the Greek crisis (and the financial crisis in general), scepticism towards "The Great European project" is I would say pretty widespread.

The racist rhetorics of the 'leave'-camp have probably done more to make EU look good than anything EU itself has managed to do in recent years. But of course that's a temporary thing. It seems EU is only really popular is in Eastern European countries looking for protection from Russia.

I think it's worth remembering that major political upheaval in Europe has been predicted by many for a while now, due to the changing global economical landscape, vast immigration created by climate change and the fast widening divide between the rich and the poor.

In that light Brexit might barely qualify as a prolog when all is said and done.

If this is accurate, then the EU itself has to tread carefully. Even without that, for the EU to 'shiv' Britain would be counterproductive. They are still a financial power within Europe, and it would make no sense to cut off their nose to spite their face.

I doubt there's anyone in EU that wants to spite Britain. For the pro-integration people EU is the means to an end, not the end itself. They'll want to keep the integration going despite the result. The pragmatics will want to be pragmatic. The sceptics will want to create a positive precedent for an exit from EU. Essentially everyone wants things to go smoothly.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

the status quo was not working for a majority of voters. angry rural white folks scared of coloured people

fyp

[taco.vidal]

Wow. Lots of hate speech against the white man in this thread. Change white for black or yellow or red and there would be mass bannings and SJWs frothing.

The reality is that people are seeing their country change for the worse and its finally gotten to the breaking point.

[PsYcNeT]

Yeah saying that elderly white people in Rural England are scared of immigrants is definitely hate speech.

Also I hear they really like cheese.

[Table 5]

I wonder what this vote does to the Canada-EU trade agreement.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Wow. Lots of hate speech against the white man in this thread. Change white for black or yellow or red and there would be mass bannings and SJWs frothing.

The reality is that people are seeing their country change for the worse and its finally gotten to the breaking point.

Wasn't the entire Exit campaign fueled by racism?

[Senator Clay Davis]

[GGG]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Wow. Lots of hate speech against the white man in this thread. Change white for black or yellow or red and there would be mass bannings and SJWs frothing.

The reality is that people are seeing their country change for the worse and its finally gotten to the breaking point.

No,

People are idiots who did no analysis on what this would mean. The blatant lies about the costs and benefits of the common market. Look at the guys who one backtracking already. Now this result will be a lot less terrible then the remain side was saying but essentially 52% British people voted for a pack of lies and nationalism and belief in the good old days.

This is the failure of democracy do to a failure of the media and people to educate themselves.

[DuffMan]

I wonder how this will effect the US vote in America. Britain might be a complete mess by then, and a glimpse of what Trump is wanting.