11-13-2015, 04:58 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Thor
Actually Europe is not a mess. 99.9% of us live in peace, how about we look at deaths to violence in the US as a comparison?
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Peace or denial?
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11-13-2015, 04:59 PM
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#222
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A field hospital has been set up nearby in a restaurant and dozens of empty sttretchers being rushed towards the Bataclan.
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11-13-2015, 04:59 PM
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#223
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
Lots of pro Muslim support on twitter. #parisburns #franceunderattack
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Not trying to be all politically correct, but there's a big difference between Muslim support and Al Qaeda/terrorist support.
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11-13-2015, 04:59 PM
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#224
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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I'm following this on a pile of different boards/groups/newsites and aside from the taxis giving free rides home, I've read about people saying to open up their doors to those knocking to get away from everything. That's awfully brave of people, to open their doors, not knowing for sure who the person on the other side actually might be. 
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11-13-2015, 05:01 PM
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#225
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Norm!
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So this now leads to the question, if this is an ISIS organized event.
Do you now designate ISIS as a legitimate foreign entity.
If you do that then France has now been attacked by a foreign country, which under NATO means that all members have to respond as if it's an attack on their own soil.
I'm sure that France will be addressing NATO on this sooner rather then later.
Nato could ignore Turkey when they started down this road, but I doubt that they can ignore France.
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11-13-2015, 05:03 PM
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#226
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^Still too early to speculate.
Map of the areas attacked:
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11-13-2015, 05:04 PM
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#227
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
So this now leads to the question, if this is an ISIS organized event.
Do you now designate ISIS as a legitimate foreign entity.
If you do that then France has now been attacked by a foreign country, which under NATO means that all members have to respond as if it's an attack on their own soil.
I'm sure that France will be addressing NATO on this sooner rather then later.
Nato could ignore Turkey when they started down this road, but I doubt that they can ignore France.
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It's going to be pretty hard to claim this from an international law standpoint if the terrorists end up being homegrown, and especially since ISIS is not recognized as a state.
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11-13-2015, 05:04 PM
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Are ISIS and Al Queda the same entity now?
Because to my eyes this looks like a well thought out, organized plan and I'm not too up on ISIS' known tactics. Reeks of Al Queda is what I am getting at.
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11-13-2015, 05:05 PM
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#229
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In your enterprise AI
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Originally Posted by MRCboicgy
Keep this on topic of the attacks.
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11-13-2015, 05:05 PM
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#230
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Fox News is claiming that a third man is in custody and claims to be both Syrian and a member of ISIS.
Could be complete bull, but there it is.
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11-13-2015, 05:05 PM
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#231
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Originally Posted by Minnie
I'm following this on a pile of different boards/groups/newsites and aside from the taxis giving free rides home, I've read about people saying to open up their doors to those knocking to get away from everything. That's awfully brave of people, to open their doors, not knowing for sure who the person on the other side actually might be. |
I really love hearing stories about people/country unifying like that. It's a shame that far too often it's a tragedy (dare I say catastrophe today) that causes it.
Horrific news. Absolutely terrible.
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11-13-2015, 05:05 PM
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#232
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So weird thing. The area around state de France is mostly African immigrants the large swath of which are Muslim. Maybe with the game they thought they'd get a different crowd around the area as that area is also the opposite of affluent but those who can afford a soccer match probably are
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11-13-2015, 05:07 PM
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#233
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Given France's history and stance on terrorism...seems kinda like poking the bear.
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11-13-2015, 05:09 PM
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#234
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Thank Hank for streaming - I've switched to the aforementioned France24 because CNN is ridiculous and of course they have the ever bleating Blitzer going on and on and saying the most ridiculous things.
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11-13-2015, 05:10 PM
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Police official states that attackers in Bataclan used explosives on hostages.
Other sources now stating that arrested perpetrator has said he is part of ISIS.
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11-13-2015, 05:10 PM
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#236
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Are ISIS and Al Queda the same entity now?
Because to my eyes this looks like a well thought out, organized plan and I'm not too up on ISIS' known tactics. Reeks of Al Queda is what I am getting at.
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No, they are against each other, enemies
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11-13-2015, 05:11 PM
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#237
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Police official states that attackers in Bataclan used explosives on hostages.
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The BBC just aired a clip outside the Bataclan where you could clearly hear explosions and automatic weapons.
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11-13-2015, 05:12 PM
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#238
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Are ISIS and Al Queda the same entity now?
Because to my eyes this looks like a well thought out, organized plan and I'm not too up on ISIS' known tactics. Reeks of Al Queda is what I am getting at.
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No they are two separate entities unless my info is out of date.
While they're not actively fighting each other they are not working together.
We won't know until we find out what France knew prior to this event (cell phone intercepts, who the attackers were, were they under surveillance)
On top of that, nobody has claimed responsibility yet, that leads me to worry that more is to come tonight.
As well, my thought is that the next smartest attack would be at the G-20 in Turkey.
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11-13-2015, 05:13 PM
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Norm!
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CTV just had Mercedes Stephenson and she's done an outstanding job in terms of summarizing everything.
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11-13-2015, 05:13 PM
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#240
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Powerplay Quarterback
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LCI TV Live Stream: "At least 100 dead in the Bataclan"
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