Ahmed Mohamed, 14yr old arrested over clock mistaken for bomb

[codynw]

Yea, I hate to say it, but Quincy Egg got it right. This was totally planned from the start.

[CaptainCrunch]

All you can hope for is a common sense judge at this point.

But yeah this comes across as a complete lawsuit trap. They completely prayed upon paranoia.

Yes the school officials acted foolishly, and this is all about the settlement now.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

He'll will probably need to move after this. Texas is probably one of the last places in the US you want to be pulling this kind of stunt.

He's already moved.

[Resolute 14]

Frankly, I support him. Not because he deserves $15 million, but because the city and police deserve to lose $15 million. The only way a cultural support of cancelling civil rights due to racism stops is if these authorities are faced with real consequences.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Just plain ridiculous.

Nobody has benefitted from this more than he has. Scholarships, educational opportunities... and his family wants $15 million?

I hate to say it, but this kid knew exactly what he was doing from the start.

Kid is smarter than we thought.

Play into predictable racial profiling? Check.

Use predictable PC backlash to gain support? Check.

Claim emotional damage and sue? Check.

Kid is more American than ever.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Frankly, I support him. Not because he deserves $15 million, but because the city and police deserve to lose $15 million. The only way a cultural support of cancelling civil rights due to racism stops is if these authorities are faced with real consequences.

The way to battle racism (xenophobia maybe is the word you are looking for) is through angering an entire group of people through what looks like a publicity stunt/attention seeking behaviours, all the while taking money away from a city and a school board in the process. I honestly don't see how this does anything to promote civil rights.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

The way to battle racism (xenophobia maybe is the word you are looking for) is through angering an entire group of people through what looks like a publicity stunt/attention seeking behaviours, all the while taking money away from a city and a school board in the process. I honestly don't see how this does anything to promote civil rights.

Xenophobia, isn't/wasn't he born in the States?

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Frankly, I support him. Not because he deserves $15 million, but because the city and police deserve to lose $15 million. The only way a cultural support of cancelling civil rights due to racism stops is if these authorities are faced with real consequences.

You don't think this is an act of entrapment and selfish attempt to get rich from the terrorist fears plaguing the US? If anything this kid is blatantly abusing the race card for profit, which is making the social issues worse.

[Resolute 14]

Interesting. I am guessing you think this is an "act of entrapment" because hes a brown kid.

But lets play with that. Lets assume that this is the case. How does that justify completely voiding his civil rights?

[NuclearFart]

Why would I think entrapment = brown kid? If anything its a legal term pertaining to law enforcement. You'll probably have to enlighten me here on this racist outrage.

You're justifying d-bag behaviour profiting from the tragic state of America, under the guise of protecting civil rights?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Xenophobia, isn't/wasn't he born in the States?

A fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange, I don't think that Muslims qualify as being of a different race based upon their religious/spiritual preferences.

[Resolute 14]

No, NuclearFart, I am saying there is no excuse you can make that will rationalize the decision of the school and local police to completely disregard his civil and constitutional rights.

You can argue whatever nefarious intent on the part of the kid that you want. It doesn't change that the behaviour of those in charge was deplorable. That deplorable behaviour will not change absent consequences.

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

No, NuclearFart, I am saying there is no excuse you can make that will rationalize the decision of the school and local police to completely disregard his civil and constitutional rights.

You can argue whatever nefarious intent on the part of the kid that you want. It doesn't change that the behaviour of those in charge was deplorable. That deplorable behaviour will not change absent consequences.

I never excused the school/police behaviour, in fact I fully acknowledged it as the sad state of the US.

Clearly, his civil and constitutional rights are the only thing important to you. I think any judge presiding over this case in Texas is going to partially disagree with you because context is highly relevant.

Are you going to explain why you think the term entrapment is racist?

[Resolute 14]

Why would I explain the reasoning behind an opinion I never expressed?

What I suggested is that you think this is entrapment because the kid is brown. Same way his clock became a bomb because the kid is brown.

[Ashasx]

I think the situation was worsened because of his skin color, but I still think that looks like a bomb, regardless of what race he was...

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Why would I explain the reasoning behind an opinion I never expressed?

What I suggested is that you think this is entrapment because the kid is brown. Same way his clock became a bomb because the kid is brown.

I think you're blinded by your whole civil rights/racism soapbox and trying too hard.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

No, NuclearFart, I am saying there is no excuse you can make that will rationalize the decision of the school and local police to completely disregard his civil and constitutional rights.

You can argue whatever nefarious intent on the part of the kid that you want. It doesn't change that the behaviour of those in charge was deplorable. That deplorable behaviour will not change absent consequences.

Is bringing a suspicious package into a public area a civil right? The kid brought in something that looked like a bomb into school and faced the consequences. If the courthouse in Calgary can get shut down because of a forgotten backpack, a briefcase full of electronics into a school should raise suspicion too.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Is bringing a suspicious package into a public area a civil right? The kid brought in something that looked like a bomb into school and faced the consequences. If the courthouse in Calgary can get shut down because of a forgotten backpack, a briefcase full of electronics into a school should raise suspicion too.

I think a big part of it is that the school WASN'T shut down. They didn't lock down the evacuate the school. They didn't have a bomb squad in to 'disarm'. They either knew it wasn't an actual bomb and decided to hassle the kid anyway, or they acted terribly inept in the face of a legitimate bomb threat.

Either way, it looks bad.

[Ashasx]

Perhaps they knew it was just a hoax bomb? That's still treated harshly.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I think a big part of it is that the school WASN'T shut down. They didn't lock down the evacuate the school. They didn't have a bomb squad in to 'disarm'. They either knew it wasn't an actual bomb and decided to hassle the kid anyway, or they acted terribly inept in the face of a legitimate bomb threat.

Either way, it looks bad.

Not that it changes the story too much but they did bring in police, had him arrested and the police did check it over.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34904226

That part to me seems pretty cut and dry. Have the person arrested until it's decided that his clock isn't a hazard. The place where I believe things went totally overboard was with the violent threats towards him and the family. If someone doesn't feel safe at work or school, they have the right to voice their concern and contact the authorities.