[PGT] Flames lose to the Habs in the shootout

[Singularity]

We stole a game from Chicago, they stole one from us, all evens out I guess. Good to see Gaudreau improving day by day.

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I don't care if it's discrimination or not. I've always said if you are someone who wears an opponent's jersey to the 'Dome that you should be forced to pay a fee at the door that gets donated to charity. I don't care if it's a franchise with a storied history like the Habs. NOTHING grosses me out more then hearing cheers for the opponents in our own f'ing arena.

so i should have to pay a fee when i watch the flames play in vancouver

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

God damn Roger exaggerating or rushing to Twitter before all the facts are in. Ends up being just over a month he'll be out, that's not severe.

I haven't seen anything wrong with Roger's reporting on this injury. I think you have a problem.

[Machiavelli]

^ To be fair, the tweet was:

"Matt Stajan is one of the game's great guys..hearing his knee injury is severe. Likely ligament damage. Waiting confirmation."

Prefacing the information with a statement of what a great guy Stajan is gives the entire message a sombre feel. Then he follows that up by saying he heard the injury is "severe." 4-6 weeks in the grand scheme of things isn't what I'd call severe.

I have no issue with Millions, but he's done this level of speculation before.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

^ To be fair, the tweet was:

"Matt Stajan is one of the game's great guys..hearing his knee injury is severe. Likely ligament damage. Waiting confirmation."

Prefacing the information with a statement of what a great guy Stajan is gives the entire message a sombre feel. Then he follows that up by saying he heard the injury is "severe." 4-6 weeks in the grand scheme of things isn't what I'd call severe.

I have no issue with Millions, but he's done this level of speculation before.

I figure being out 4 to 6 weeks is severe. That's about how long a broken bone takes to heal. Anyways that just comes down to everyone's interpretation of the word, hardly something to get a poster ranting about. He also says that it's what he's heard. What is he supposed to report, what he hasn't heard? He also finishes off with "Waiting confirmation", which seems clear enough for me that he isn't trying to say he has the final goods on the story.

[Machiavelli]

Well, I expected much worse based on his tweet.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Well, I expected much worse based on his tweet.

I have no issue with Millions, but he's done this level of speculation before.

If this is the case, you should know better.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I figure being out 4 to 6 weeks is severe. That's about how long a broken bone takes to heal. Anyways that just comes down to everyone's interpretation of the word, hardly something to get a poster ranting about. He also says that it's what he's heard. What is he supposed to report, what he hasn't heard? He also finishes off with "Waiting confirmation", which seems clear enough for me that he isn't trying to say he has the final goods on the story.

This all would be fine if Roger didn't have a consistent history of overreacting and rushing to Twitter.

I think you have a problem.

[Machiavelli]

I think we all have a problem...extreme Flames fanaticism. I mean, I'm up at midnight internet-arguing over Matt frickin Stajan.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

This all would be fine if Roger didn't have a consistent history of overreacting and rushing to Twitter.

I think you have a problem.

You're the one who overreacted to a twitter which clearly stated he is "waiting confirmation". He's reporting what he heard.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I think we all have a problem...extreme Flames fanaticism. I mean, I'm up at midnight internet-arguing over Matt frickin Stajan.

How about that Bouwmeester?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

You're the one who overreacted to a twitter which clearly stated he is "waiting confirmation". He's reporting what he heard.

Nope, not at all. This is pretty par for the course for Millions unfortunately. Trying desperately to be an insider, and failing consistently. Roger is great at hosting, giving stories context, asking good questions, but he's pretty terrible at judging which information is real and what isn't.

Again, would be fine if this is a one off, but it's a pattern with Millions. Don't see why me calling a member of the media out on this justifies you saying "I have a problem". Try to act like an adult Vulcan. You obviously have an issue with me, but try not to be childish about it and grow up.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I think we all have a problem...extreme Flames fanaticism. I mean, I'm up at midnight internet-arguing over Matt frickin Stajan.

Nm can't figure out how to upload my pic of fat internet-arguing guy with pony tail and moobs

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Well, I expected much worse based on his tweet.

Yeah, severe had me thinking season ending at the least and maybe career threatening.

6 weeks is not severe.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I figure being out 4 to 6 weeks is severe. That's about how long a broken bone takes to heal. Anyways that just comes down to everyone's interpretation of the word, hardly something to get a poster ranting about. He also says that it's what he's heard. What is he supposed to report, what he hasn't heard? He also finishes off with "Waiting confirmation", which seems clear enough for me that he isn't trying to say he has the final goods on the story.

If colbourne's injury is 4-6 weeks, is that not severe. It's context.

I feel like most of the CP DOGHOUSE GANG had a good game. Jones was very good. Stajan was good. Glencross was good. Smid was good. Engelland was good. Bollig was good.

Wideman was ok. Not good, not bad, but ok. Seemed like he was trying too hard for a goal, and the PP suffered.

Brodano was very very good. Is it foreshadowing the future (or present) to say Brodie was better than Gio? Something tells me Brodie might be the first of the pair to be Norris nominated.

I love the top 3. If the Flames could sign/draft/develop/trade for a young physical top 4 d-man then the defense is set for the next 5yrs. If they could get 2, then they are set for the next 10. I wish Gio was 5yrs younger! Maybe Sieloff or Wotherspoon is the guy!

Gaudreau is the real deal. I'm not happy Loubarious and Wills are campaigning for a new Nickname. JOHNNY HOCKEY is perfect! Sounds like the grandson of MR. HOCKEY (wishing him all the luck and all my prayers are going out for him btw).

I'm not excited for 5yrs from now, I'm excited for 2016 and 2017 playoffs. I think we have most of the pieces. 1 more good draft. 1 coaching extension. Good player development. And 1 or 2 key free agent signings makes us the Blackhawks of few years back. Without the cap headache.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

The Flames shouldn't depend on just McGrattan to enforce for the young kids.... the whole team should stop being pussies and stick up for anyone who are getting harassed. Bollig and Smid are the only ones who seem to be sticking up for teammates. Pitiful.

Glencross stuck out for when Hiller got wacked by Washington player and he was chastised by some posters here.

I really think players are sticking out for their teammates here in Calgary. Bollig going after Orpik the other night. David Jones going after Tinordi after that knee-on-knee hit on Stajan. Even Paul Byron went after someone one game. TJ Brodie going after Paccioretti for trying to embarrass Hiller.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by OzSome

Glencross stuck out for when Hiller got wacked by Washington player and he was chastised by some posters here.



I really think players are sticking out for their teammates here in Calgary. Bollig going after Orpik the other night. David Jones going after Tinordi after that knee-on-knee hit on Stajan. Even Paul Byron went after someone one game. TJ Brodie going after Paccioretti for trying to embarrass Hiller.

I agree. I am happy that the flames have been responding that way. I would gladly see them take a penalty for it to prove a point.

I would love it if the flames took it to a whole other level though... I'm talking about targeting somebody like pacioretty all night for what he did... I'm talking about shifting the line-matching so that the most physical guys are sent out there against him the rest of the night with the direction that he gets harassed and hit every chance they get. All game long - puck or no puck. Heck... I would love to see the return of the bench-clearing brawl in response to any cheap shot on one of the kids. I know the rules these days have pretty much killed that and it's unlikely to ever return but man I miss those days. Would be so proud of the whole team if the flames just went for it one day.

The team has the physical guys to make players accountable and it's soooo frustrating to see a guy like emelin sucker punch gaudreau in the side of the head for no reason and there be no consequence for it. If mcgrattan is in the line up against the Habs next game, I would love to see him return the favour.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I agree. I am happy that the flames have been responding that way. I would gladly see them take a penalty for it to prove a point.

I would love it if the flames took it to a whole other level though... I'm talking about targeting somebody like pacioretty all night for what he did... I'm talking about shifting the line-matching so that the most physical guys are sent out there against him the rest of the night with the direction that he gets harassed and hit every chance they get. All game long - puck or no puck. Heck... I would love to see the return of the bench-clearing brawl in response to any cheap shot on one of the kids. I know the rules these days have pretty much killed that and it's unlikely to ever return but man I miss those days. Would be so proud of the whole team if the flames just went for it one day.

The team has the physical guys to make players accountable and it's soooo frustrating to see a guy like emelin sucker punch gaudreau in the side of the head for no reason and there be no consequence for it. If mcgrattan is in the line up against the Habs next game, I would love to see him return the favour.

Be careful. That sounds a lot like Canuck behavior toward Steve Moore. I completely respect the idea of teammates sticking op for eachother and fighting for honorable reasons. I do not believe in targeting players though. Fleury was a DB from all accounts, and we loved it. He was accountable. He wasn't burrows.

Let things go and move on when the game is over.

But during the game, NEVER let your teammate get bullied. Just be honorable in seeking justice.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Be careful. That sounds a lot like Canuck behavior toward Steve Moore. I completely respect the idea of teammates sticking op for eachother and fighting for honorable reasons. I do not believe in targeting players though. Fleury was a DB from all accounts, and we loved it. He was accountable. He wasn't burrows.



Let things go and move on when the game is over.



But during the game, NEVER let your teammate get bullied. Just be honorable in seeking justice.

Not asking for a bertuzzi-Moore incident but I do want there to be consequences. At least twice now guys have given gaudreau an intentional cheap shot to the head... First Corrado and now emelin. The flames have the nuclear deterrent with guys like mcgrattan, Bollig, engelland, bouma, etc. have to show that the team is willing to push the button on it when plugs are going after one of the most skilled guys the flames have seen in over a decade. I'll gladly take a loss if it means making guys think twice about doing stuff like that. But that will only happen if the response to these shots at Johnny (or any other flame for that matter) are relentless. Guys should be afraid that mcgrattan, Bollig, bouma... Heck, the whole team is going to go after him relentlessly for any attempt to injure a guy like gaudreau.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Nope, not at all. This is pretty par for the course for Millions unfortunately. Trying desperately to be an insider, and failing consistently. Roger is great at hosting, giving stories context, asking good questions, but he's pretty terrible at judging which information is real and what isn't.

Again, would be fine if this is a one off, but it's a pattern with Millions. Don't see why me calling a member of the media out on this justifies you saying "I have a problem". Try to act like an adult Vulcan. You obviously have an issue with me, but try not to be childish about it and grow up.

<sigh> Typical response from MMF. Attack and belittle the person in the hopes of diminishing the value of their comments.

Don't you ever get tired of acting like an a-hole?