[News] Flames/Glencross looking at Extension

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

There isn't a history of missing anywhere near thirty games a season, unless you're cherry picking stats.

Since he's been a flame:
74 GP
67 GP
79 GP
67 GP
40 GP (lockout shortened season)
38 GP

Where's this history you speak of? One season?

I made my response to a post citing his PPG as a better stat than points. If the injuries are insignificant, then why even post his PPG? Why aren't his actual points a better stat?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I made my response to a post citing his PPG as a better stat than points. If the injuries are insignificant, then why even post his PPG? Why aren't his actual points a better stat?

Because of one locked out season and one season with significant injury? One season does not a history make

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Like I said if the contract makes sense I'm all for signing him. There are definitely injury concerns though. His healthiest season was 5 years ago. His worst was last year. Averaged over the 5 years it's still close to 20 games a year. Should be a consideration. Engellend will bring leadership. Gio is still here. Stajan is still here. There are other vets beyond those guys. If he gets term and dollars I don't think it's worth it. He's taking away a spot from a young player. If he is injured again or production slows were stuck with him. 2-3 years sure. 4-5 unless at a discount no thanks.

I'm pretty much in agreement with this. Younger flames like Backlund are developing into leaders too.

[Hackey]

Just don't give him term. We don't want 36-37 year old Glencross chewing up 5 million of cap space while putting up 30 points. If you want his leadership sign him for 2-3 years. If he wants term take a discount. There's enough injury history to be smart enough to not tie our hands with a lengthy deal.

[Street Pharmacist]

Agreed with that ^

[Monahan23]

I'd like and think we'll se something like 3 years, $13,500,000. AAV of $3,500,000

[AC]

Originally Posted by Monahan23

I'd like and think we'll se something like 3 years, $13,500,000. AAV of $3,500,000

That's an AAV of $4.5M.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Originally Posted by AC

That's an AAV of $4.5M.

Not if we sneak one by the league it's not

[5by5]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

3 yrs @ 4.5 is a good deal for the Flames.

[CSharp]

If Flames do renew GlenX's contract, I just hope he won't get any limiting NMC or NTC attached. He can be a great asset during the trading deadlines. When he's on a roll, he's the ScoreFace the Flames need. But then he turns his ugly head and gets in a rut with them dumb-arse penalties only GlenX knows about.

[BurningSteel]

term, money or NTC/NMC. Let him pick two

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by BurningSteel

term, money or NTC/NMC. Let him pick two

No.

[GreenLantern2814]

With a surplus of skilled top-six winger prospects in the system, it actually makes a lot of sense to bring Glencross back. When he's healthy, he's still a legit front line NHL forward (when he decides to be), of which we have very few.

If he's going to get injured for 15-20 games a year, then we can recall one of our skill prospects and let them play with relatively minimal pressure - they're injury callups. If they succeed on their audition, then Glencross gets bumped down a line when he's back, and gets softer matchups.

There's no downside for us to bring him back. Treliving won't give him major term, and if he gets higher AAV so be it. If his injuries are a concern, there's LTIR and insurance to cover the costs. If he's healthy, we have a deeper team.

[GreenLantern2814]

EDIT: Delete duplicate

[heep223]

Lambert is such a dink. On so many levels.

6. The Calgary Flames
The Flames are currently going about the business of locking down all their restricted free agents, which is a fine idea. After that, they will apparently turn their attentions to getting new contracts for the guys who still have one year to go on their existing ones, but who they don't want to see leave any time soon. That's obviously also a good idea. Where they're starting, however, is not.

They're starting with... well, no, it's not Mikael Backlund, the soon-to-be first-line center who drives possession better than just about anyone on the team. And no, it's not going to be T.J. Brodie, who's probably one of the most overlooked very good defensemen in the league. It's not those guys, who should be tied to the organization for years at reasonable dollar figures to come because they're strong players in their mid-20s.

No, the Flames are instead focusing on 31-year-old, oft-injured winger Curtis Glencross. Late last week, Glencross said that the Flames want to get going on a new deal for him, one that would explicitly not-include any sort of hometown discount for the team that's made him an inexplicable folk hero. Which, you know, is his prerogative; when you're on the wrong side of 30, you can't be blamed in any way for wanting to cash in on a deal in the eight figure range.

But why would Glencross be Calgary's priority when so many more pressing ones are on the table? Unless they're expecting a protracted negotiating process with Backlund and Brodie, which they might be, the only reason to focus on Glencross first is that the Flames are a team as poorly run as they are fundamentally bad. Watching a good number of Flames games makes you realize Glencross really isn't very good; he doesn't drive possession in any appreciable way, he's hurt all the time, he doesn't draw penalties because he rarely has the puck, and he lives off a high shooting percentage.

He's fine, but he's not the kind of guy you should try to secure before your No. 1 center and No. 2 defenseman. Pretty simple, really.

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[Street Pharmacist]

Why can the flames only focus on one contact at a time? Seems silly

[Calgary4LIfe]

Horrible article is horrible. In no way is it ever stated that Glencross is the 'priority' by the Flames. I am thinking he is the biggest named vet entering the last deal of his contract. Of course it is going to get more speculation and attention in the media than an 'expected' re-signing of Backlund and Brodie.

What some writers do for hits...

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Lol@Lambert.

Glencross and Flames interested in negotiating a contract extension.

This means they think Glencross is more important than TJ Brodie.

This means that Flames management are stupid.

It's like a masterpiece of deductive logic.

[saillias]

"he doesn't drive possession in any appreciable way, he's hurt all the time, he doesn't draw penalties because he rarely has the puck, and he lives off a high shooting percentage."

I hate to admit it but I agree with this quote. He's a frustrating player to watch. I hope we can trade him.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by heep223

Lambert is such a dink. On so many levels.

Yeah, I followed Lambert on Twitter for a while there but he is pretty tough to take seriously sometimes and other times he is complete nonsense.