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Old 06-21-2013, 10:16 PM   #2361
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I want to thank everyone for their amazing posts and information, I've found more out from this website than basically anywhere else combined. Love you guys.

I was actually curious, what do people speculate the odds are of the Trans-Canada Highway actually having some form of passing or functionality for regular drivers? I was supposed to leave town next Thursday to head to Vancouver and if I can't drive out there, I'll lose thousands of dollars of potential income (and I am not someone with much money). Cheers.
Worst case scenario - you could drive North to the Yellowhead Highway and go into BC from there. Quite a bit longer, but you'll likely get there.
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If it worth that much - highway 3 in the south or go north to sask river crossing
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:17 PM   #2363
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The more I see of whats happening around the Stampede grounds, the less likely it becomes that the stampede will happen anywhere near what it would be normally.

Its 14 days away...the water is still covering the entire grounds and could be there another 2 days or so....meaning they have 12 days to take stock of what they are dealing with, clean everything up, dry everything out, make all necessary repairs both on the grounds and to the roadways as well as the grandstand area and horse barns (which may be unrepairable) and then the track itself may be unusable on top of that.

Then there will be the issue of all those displaced by flooding in their homes needing shelter AND all those who come into town needing the same. The amount of restaurants affected by this has to be enormous and there is little chance they would be ready in time.

Will 9 Ave be ready to host the parade in that time frame?

It just seems like it will take a lot of luck along with a herculean effort of both paid personnel and volunteers to get things anywhere close to being ready to take on the amount of tourism usually associated with the Stampede.

It would be a shame to have to cancel things as the city could use the infusion to the economy as well as the psyche/pride level, but man it looks doubtful.

Hope I am dead wrong.

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Old 06-21-2013, 10:18 PM   #2364
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I was actually curious, what do people speculate the odds are of the Trans-Canada Highway actually having some form of passing or functionality for regular drivers? I was supposed to leave town next Thursday to head to Vancouver and if I can't drive out there, I'll lose thousands of dollars of potential income (and I am not someone with much money). Cheers.
They will likely choose the least damaged side of the highway then do a quick patch repair and run both west/east traffic on the two lanes (truck traffic restricted). Then they'll focus on fixing the other side properly, move traffic to that side when done, then fix the other side properly then open fully. Only a guess though based on how I've seen other washouts done.

Could be temporarily opened in 1-2 days once dried out and bridge passes inspection. I'd plan an alternate via Hwy 3 or Jasper just in case.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:19 PM   #2365
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The job of the military isn't to police Canadian streets. I honestly could see search and rescue but that doesn't appear to be a need at the current time. It will essentially be wait for water levels to drop and clean up while the specialized trades start getting life back together (Enmax, road crews and the like). If it was a matter of filling sandbags, digging berms and other preventative measures, I could see it, but as of now I don't see the need. Perhaps engineers to build temp roads.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:19 PM   #2366
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It's quite a nice night, sun is setting, sky is clear and the almost-full moon is really bright!
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:22 PM   #2367
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I just want to say a huge thank you to the Police out there! I work at Marks Work Wearhouse and two RCMP officers from Fort Mac came into today to buy rubber boots. They started at 7 am (off of 3 hours of sleep and driving straight here) and are going until 12 am or later tonight. To all of those military and CPS- THANK YOU.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:22 PM   #2368
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It was definitely a nice evening. There was a party atmosphere around here. I saw more than a few people with open liquor having a good time.

The mosquitos are crazy though.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:25 PM   #2369
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So... Which one is accurate?
Nenshi presser: "Extremely unlikely" that downtown will reopen before the middle of next week:



Re: Stampede -- if they put all their efforts into pumping water out and getting the rodeo/track/midway restored, I could see it happening (Saddledome and other buildings are another story). But with the downtown core likely without power until mid-next week, I have to think that is the first priority for the City.
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It is when its required.
And this isn't the case, with no violence, looting, mayhem of any kind, sending in the military would be an awful lapse in judgement. Sending in police from other cities to help monitor evacuated areas, sure I can see that, but the military... not really.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:33 PM   #2371
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And this isn't the case, with no violence, looting, mayhem of any kind, sending in the military would be an awful lapse in judgement. Sending in police from other cities to help monitor evacuated areas, sure I can see that, but the military... not really.
Is there seriously any point in arguing about this? The city is a disaster zone. I, for one, am glad the military is here to assist the overwhelmed emergency personnel.
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Saw on the news earlier as well that a couple of the large arch pieces from the st pats bridge are dislodged and are now semi submerged in the bow
Walking by it today, it didn't look good at all.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:33 PM   #2373
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And this isn't the case, with no violence, looting, mayhem of any kind, sending in the military would be an awful lapse in judgement. Sending in police from other cities to help monitor evacuated areas, sure I can see that, but the military... not really.
Why not?

The CPS is stretched to its capacity right now...many officers going on 20+ hours with no sleep etc.

Why cant we have military guys manning the barricades of closed streets/ramps instead of city cops for a couple days?

Im not suggesting they start policing the city and trying to catch the idiots out there, just some support for a very weary group of women and men who DESERVE a break right now.
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Awesome shot of the army waiting to move to High River

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The job of the military isn't to police Canadian streets. I honestly could see search and rescue but that doesn't appear to be a need at the current time. It will essentially be wait for water levels to drop and clean up while the specialized trades start getting life back together (Enmax, road crews and the like). If it was a matter of filling sandbags, digging berms and other preventative measures, I could see it, but as of now I don't see the need. Perhaps engineers to build temp roads.
Would you rather the military be here, ready to help fill bags and dig berms or whatever else is needed if things get worse, or give them a call when you really need them and have it take 24-36 hours for them to mobilize and get here?
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I live right by 14th St. I was on the bridge when they started reopening it around 6pm.
14 St SW and 10 St SW bridges open for vehicular traffic as of 21:45 tonight. (Source: went for a walk)
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:38 PM   #2377
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Nenshi presser: "Extremely unlikely" that downtown will reopen before the middle of next week:
Wow, that is crazy.
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Wow, that is crazy.
Yeah. Though I guess there is still tons of water. It'll take long enough to dry everything out, get roads/mass transit back up to speed. But the main thing will be power.
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Quick question, if something is outside the evacuation zone, it likely has power, right? Thinking of my office downtown.
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