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Old 01-21-2025, 07:45 PM   #2341
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The way things are going under Stellantis, I wouldn't be surprised to hear a lot of the models and marques from Chrysler et al. are being chopped.
That doesn't stay with the original owner like 'Full Self Driving' does?

I'm not sure. I was told it stays with the car, but I could be wrong. It was a few years ago.
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Old 01-21-2025, 11:42 PM   #2342
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We've had a Model S for 9 years and are now looking at getting a luxury PHEV to replace it. We won't get anything for the Model S. It's almost tempting to keep it just to see how long it will last.
some nice PHEV offerings in the market now, the Lexus 450H+ is a beaut for sure, pricey though. My wife loves her Tucson PHEV, wouldn't own it without an extended warranty though.
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Old 01-21-2025, 11:51 PM   #2343
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Not surprising if true but apparently the long range version of the Ram EV is dead:
https://insideevs.com/news/747834/ra...e-dead-report/

With that version gone it likely means that the standard version might not be available for much longer either.
the fullsize truck EV's never really caught on - after all the hype of the Ford Lightning died down, so did their sales, and the GM Truck EV offerings didnt seem to do so well either. I kinda like the Ram's take on the electric truck, its basically a locomotive on wheels....a constant speed motor driving a genset with no transmission to worry about, will probably be extremely reliable (mechanically wise) and fairly economical to run. If they price it decently, I think it could be a winner
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Yes, that's pretty much it. We go to the mountains every weekend in the winter for my sons ski club. The car is getting older. The range isn't what it used to be, as expected. A Phev gives her the ability to run on ev during the week and have the range on the weekends without having to worry about it.
Make sense. Hopefully we're a few years out from needing a new vehicle but that's my concern with going full EV. Louise has charging but I've noticed it's usually full. We're a single car family and I want to be able to reliably day trip to a hike on 93N or fishing on the trunk road without needing to top up on the drive home.
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The VW Scout with the range extender might be a good option, but not out until 2026.
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Old 01-22-2025, 08:55 AM   #2346
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Yeah I'm intrigued by that one for sure. I don't love the rear tire, prefer my spares under the vehicle like a truck, and it's a little wide, but otherwise it looks promising.
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Old 01-22-2025, 09:03 AM   #2347
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Make sense. Hopefully we're a few years out from needing a new vehicle but that's my concern with going full EV. Louise has charging but I've noticed it's usually full. We're a single car family and I want to be able to reliably day trip to a hike on 93N or fishing on the trunk road without needing to top up on the drive home.
Personally for PHEV, it's the option that's important. If I can't get gas at one, I can always go elsewhere and get what I need within a few minutes. Supercharging is limited and if full, then there's few options for a BEV. PHEV has a "more expensive" option in grabbing gas, but it's an easy option and one that can be done with minimal additional delay to a schedule if supercharging isn't available.

My friend was driving to Calgary and turned back to Vancouver in their BEV because they weren't certain that they wouldn't potentially get stranded during the Jasper fires (they were supposed to stay overnight in Golden and Jasper before continuing their way over to Calgary). With a PHEV or ICE, it wouldn't have been an issue at all. But with a BEV and kids, while disappointing, it was totally understandable.
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Weird. How far did they make it? Golden has a massive supercharger station.
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Weird. How far did they make it? Golden has a massive supercharger station.
They were in Kelowna, hadn't left yet and were supposed to do Golden overnight and then Jasper overnight. It wasn't purely the charging they were worried about.

Their concern was that even if they cut the Jasper leg of their trip, they reach Golden and before they get a chance to supercharge, Golden has to evacuate due to the fires and they have to figure out where to go from there (IIRC, there was an active fire 10-20km away from Golden at that time). They wouldn't have enough charge or ability/time to just keep going straight to Calgary.

At that point there'd have to keep driving on a low charge and there would be a risk getting stuck on a highway with potential forest fires going on. They didn't want to risk that, especially with kids in the vehicle.

In the end, it would have been fine, but I understand why they made that decision. They wouldn't have been worried at all if they had been driving their ICE or had the option to quickly add gas in a PHEV. It was a specific concern because they were doing a road trip in a BEV.
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Golden always has a fire nearby.

Key is to bring a gas generator with them.
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Golden always has a fire nearby.

Key is to bring a gas generator with them.
Indeed. I think the straw that broke the camel's back for them was the Jasper and Shuswap fires at the same time.

People basically rushing out in droves (pardon the pun) through the path they were potentially going to take and more people potentially competing for the same resources in a potential disaster situation (supercharger).

I don't recall all the details, but there may have been a BC fire advisory at the time to try and avoid lingering in the nearby Shuswap area? Seeing the aftermath of the 2023 Kelowna fire as they decided what to do, also probably contributed to their decision to head back.
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Indeed. I think the straw that broke the camel's back for them was the Jasper and Shuswap fires at the same time.

People basically rushing out in droves (pardon the pun) through the path they were potentially going to take and more people potentially competing for the same resources in a potential disaster situation (supercharger).

I don't recall all the details, but there may have been a BC fire advisory at the time to try and avoid lingering in the nearby Shuswap area? Seeing the aftermath of the 2023 Kelowna fire as they decided what to do, also probably contributed to their decision to head back.
Must've been the Jasper and Golden fires that spooked them because there were no notable fires in the Shuswap that threatened any roads. Hotels were insanely expensive because many of the people from Jasper were also in the Shuswap.

As for charging, there's lots of charging in Revelstoke before Golden and Canmore after Golden plus stops along the way.
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Old 01-22-2025, 11:44 AM   #2353
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Must've been the Jasper and Golden fires that spooked them because there were no notable fires in the Shuswap that threatened any roads. Hotels were insanely expensive because many of the people from Jasper were also in the Shuswap.

As for charging, there's lots of charging in Revelstoke before Golden and Canmore after Golden plus stops along the way.
Yeah. I don't recall the details in full. I just recall their reasoning made sense to me at the time and I'd be considering the exact same reasoning, even if my decision was different.

Oh, I think another reason was that the roads were extremely smoky. Their daughter has asthma. If there was a road closure, they'd have to rely heavily on the AC and couldn't open the windows or just turn off the car to conserve power. A valid concern if there's a several hour road closure they get stuck in. this concern was also whether the winds would blow all that smoke into the Calgary area when they arrived. It wasn't purely the fire, the wafting smoke was a significant concern as well. Was it 2022 or 2023 where we had that crazy summer with smoke so think that it was yellowy smog everywhere? I think they worried that could potentially repeat. IIRC, the wind blew the smoke away from Calgary and there was barely any smoke or smog a few days later. But I get why they were concerned.

I think in a nutshell they got spooked because it just came down to if anything were to happen, the contingency plans available to them in their situation was limited. It was very all or nothing for the situation.
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https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/te...145744491.html

Tesla Inc. says it is raising prices by up to $9,000 starting Feb. 1 on its Model 3 vehicle, the cheapest in its lineup.

The company says it will also be raising prices on the Model Y, X and S by $4,000 at the same time.
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I thought they could cut prices to boost sales. They had their first sales decline ever in the last quarter, so why raise prices? Wait, is the ~$400 stock price perhaps inflated?
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I thought they could cut prices to boost sales. They had their first sales decline ever in the last quarter, so why raise prices? Wait, is the ~$400 stock price perhaps inflated?
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Old 01-24-2025, 04:29 PM   #2358
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The way things are going under Stellantis, I wouldn't be surprised to hear a lot of the models and marques from Chrysler et al. are being chopped.
That doesn't stay with the original owner like 'Full Self Driving' does?
I'm surprised that Stellantis decided to brand their new SUV EV as a Wagoneer instead of a Grand Cherokee. It isn't anywhere near as big as the Wagoneer and is more in line with the Grand Cherokee. It seems like a bizarre move.
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I'm surprised that Stellantis decided to brand their new SUV EV as a Wagoneer instead of a Grand Cherokee. It isn't anywhere near as big as the Wagoneer and is more in line with the Grand Cherokee. It seems like a bizarre move.
EV branding is a bit of a weird game. There are three major factors that play here. You see it with a number of new EV offerings with old existing branding

1) New EV buyers are different customers for these brands as they're not usually already customers. OEMs are finding the people who buy their EV offerings are new customers to them, so staying true to existing branding is less important as you're trying to create something new from something old

2) People want small SUVs. The trend is all SUV all the time, and smaller form factors (specifically crossover SUVs) win here and if you're going to dip a toe into making EVs, do the obvious one first. Hello Mustang!I always knew you were a crossover just masquerading as a muscle car.

3) As these existing automakers are trying to straddle a shrinking but still profitable ICE market and a new, fast growing, but not yet profitable EV market, they're trying to either make EVs integrated into existing lines or separate depending on their strategy
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https://insideevs.com/news/757347/ca...ry-loves-cold/

This is pretty cool (new battery technology). Who knew baking soda was going to be so awesome

Not sure of the claim but being able to perform in -40 does sound alot better. Looks like the Chinese may be a step ahead on this one
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