02-20-2024, 03:49 PM
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#23081
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Poe969
We're Flames fans, it's ever too early to panic! A lot of us are already worried about losing ext years draft pick and we haven't even finished this year.
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I keep a jug of water handy, in case my hair bursts into flames.
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02-20-2024, 03:51 PM
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#23082
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Ferraro is very much a younger Tanev replacement.
I'm trying to find it but I recall seeing something that showed his defensive impacts are very very strong on a bad San Jose team.
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02-20-2024, 03:52 PM
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#23083
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Ped
Cozens was drafted in 2019.
Even there, the only one I think are definitely ahead are Hughes and Seider (Both taken ahead of hm anyway) Probably Caufield. Maybe Boldy. After that though, a whole lot of players you could slot above or below, depending on preference. Some due to injury (Byram) and some due to flaws (Zegras, Macelli, etc), some due to both (Dach). There are some you woudl probably take based on their play this year (Thomas Harley).
But there are a whole lot of players there who haven't broken through (Newhook, Turcotte, Podkolzin, Broberg, Kakko), and then a whole lot who are NHlers but not top line guys (Krebs, Hoglander, Protas, Kastelic)>
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Sorry, the comment i replied to was referencing Holtz not being worth a top 20 pick in his draft (2020.)
But to your point, I disagree that Caufield and Harley have surpassed Cozens yet. At the end of last season definitely neither were, and I don't think 50 games matters when you're sub 25. I think Cozens retains his draft position or maybe even goes top 5.
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02-20-2024, 03:53 PM
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#23084
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Cozens was drafted in 2019.
Even there, the only one I think are definitely ahead are Hughes and Seider (Both taken ahead of hm anyway) Probably Caufield. Maybe Boldy. After that though, a whole lot of players you could slot above or below, depending on preference. Some due to injury (Byram) and some due to flaws (Zegras, Macelli, etc), some due to both (Dach). There are some you woudl probably take based on their play this year (Thomas Harley).
But there are a whole lot of players there who haven't broken through (Newhook, Turcotte, Podkolzin, Broberg, Kakko), and then a whole lot who are NHlers but not top line guys (Krebs, Hoglander, Protas, Kastelic)>
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I assume the OP was talking about Holtz, not Cozens.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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02-20-2024, 04:10 PM
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#23085
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Karl
Mario Ferraro???
I don't get it. Don't understand why teams should have real interest in him. His upside appears to be very limited to me.
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When we signed Tanev, he was labeled the worst signing of that summer.
I love the idea of picking up a younger Tanev, the cost to acquire is likely less than what we get for Tanev too. We need a guy like him to play with the young prospects, gives them a chance to build confidence and succeed at the NHL level.
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02-20-2024, 04:11 PM
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#23086
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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I’ve kept tabs on Ferraro due to him being on my CPHL team, and yes the closest comparable I can think of is Tanev. When you look at his hockeydb page he doesn’t put up anything in the points department, but any point he gets is a bonus in the first place
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02-20-2024, 04:14 PM
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#23087
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
I’ve kept tabs on Ferraro due to him being on my CPHL team, and yes the closest comparable I can think of is Tanev. When you look at his hockeydb page he doesn’t put up anything in the points department, but any point he gets is a bonus in the first place
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Picking him up does not change the course of this team either. We can still bottom out and have a guy like him to mentor young players.
It is ok to lose 4 to 2 rather than 7 to 0 in a rebuild year too.
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02-20-2024, 04:15 PM
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#23088
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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God I hope Hanifin goes to FLA for Lundell. It's like the only trade wish I want to come true.
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02-20-2024, 04:24 PM
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#23089
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
God I hope Hanifin goes to FLA for Lundell. It's like the only trade wish I want to come true.
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Just imagine adding Lundell and Mercer!
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02-20-2024, 04:26 PM
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#23090
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
Just imagine adding Lundell and Mercer!
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That's two middle six centers under 24. That's pretty okay. Then you walk into the draft and be super duper happy Ivan Demidov falls into your lap, comfortable knowing you have the center depth to take supreme skill over position of need.
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02-20-2024, 04:29 PM
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#23091
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Seems like nobody's getting traded during the poker tournament ��
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02-20-2024, 04:39 PM
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#23093
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Franchise Player
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FWIW, Mercer hasn't played much centre this year. When he does, it is on the 4th line, otherwise Lazar plays 3rd line centre, and Mercer is on the RW. Not to say that he couldn't transition to centre or anything, but apparently he is mostly playing on the RW. I noticed a few Devils' fans hee-hawing about that too saying: "Wait until Calgary finds out he isn't a centre." Regardless, if the Flames are targeting him specifically as a centre prospect, then they must feel he can be a centre, otherwise they are targeting him as a young and productive player. I am sure it isn't some secret to the organization.
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02-20-2024, 04:42 PM
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#23094
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Sharangovich wasn't a center either...but he's looked good at center IMO.
Devils seem to be doing a weird thing where they move everyone away from center...even Hughes has been playing wing at times this year.
Seems weird to me to be moving all these ultra talented players away from the most important position but who knows.
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02-20-2024, 05:15 PM
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#23095
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
FWIW, Mercer hasn't played much centre this year. When he does, it is on the 4th line, otherwise Lazar plays 3rd line centre, and Mercer is on the RW. Not to say that he couldn't transition to centre or anything, but apparently he is mostly playing on the RW. I noticed a few Devils' fans hee-hawing about that too saying: "Wait until Calgary finds out he isn't a centre." Regardless, if the Flames are targeting him specifically as a centre prospect, then they must feel he can be a centre, otherwise they are targeting him as a young and productive player. I am sure it isn't some secret to the organization.
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Many centres get thrown on the wing to start, look at Elias Lindholm. Doesn't mean they are not centres anymore.
Last edited by dissentowner; 02-20-2024 at 06:31 PM.
Reason: Keyboard got possessed by a drunk fn demon....f that guy!
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02-20-2024, 05:22 PM
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#23096
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Conroy needs to sit back and let this come to him.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1760094657877352765
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02-20-2024, 05:34 PM
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#23097
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
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To be honest, Saros for Mercer or Holtz makes a lot more sense than Markstrom for Mercer +++ or Holtz +++
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02-20-2024, 05:40 PM
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#23098
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Sharangovich wasn't a center either...but he's looked good at center IMO.
Devils seem to be doing a weird thing where they move everyone away from center...even Hughes has been playing wing at times this year.
Seems weird to me to be moving all these ultra talented players away from the most important position but who knows.
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They have Hughes, Hischier, McLeod as centers.
Which one should have moved to the wing?
You know exactly why Hughes has been playing wing of late.
Haula is a better center than either Sharangovich or Mercer.
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02-20-2024, 05:43 PM
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#23099
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
FWIW, Mercer hasn't played much centre this year. When he does, it is on the 4th line, otherwise Lazar plays 3rd line centre, and Mercer is on the RW. Not to say that he couldn't transition to centre or anything, but apparently he is mostly playing on the RW. I noticed a few Devils' fans hee-hawing about that too saying: "Wait until Calgary finds out he isn't a centre." Regardless, if the Flames are targeting him specifically as a centre prospect, then they must feel he can be a centre, otherwise they are targeting him as a young and productive player. I am sure it isn't some secret to the organization.
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I could be misremembering, but wasn't Lindholm stuck playing the wing in Carolina when we acquired him and moved him back to center?
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02-20-2024, 05:43 PM
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#23100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
They have Hughes, Hischier, McLeod as centers.
Which one should have moved to the wing?
You know exactly why Hughes has been playing wing of late.
Haula is a better center than either Sharangovich or Mercer.
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Dunno if you've heard but McLeod isn't playing hockey for the foreseeable future. He's chilling with Dube in some hidey hole .
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