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Old 06-27-2025, 01:51 PM   #2281
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If the Islanders want Hagens so bad why get some assets by swapping picks with the Sharks or Hawks?
They want both.
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Old 06-27-2025, 01:55 PM   #2282
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Stars won't trade Johnston for Raz, they need to keep him as part of the package for McDavid.
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Old 06-27-2025, 01:56 PM   #2283
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Sillinger for 18, sure. But I'm not enamoured with it. Would personally like it if we threw the kitchen sink at moving to #4 (ie: 18, 31, Andersson, future 1st). We get a young controllable asset that can grow with Parekh and hopefully Honzek.
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Rightly so. SJ is competing in 4 years at best. Gotta have a young controllable asset at a discount.
Yet many are hoping to get 2oa in a deal involving Andersson?
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Old 06-27-2025, 02:04 PM   #2285
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Dobson deal should set the expectations lower on a Andersson return.
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Yet many are hoping to get 2oa in a deal involving Andersson?
Ya because it won’t just be Raz. Raz +++ for 2nd overall should make sense for both sides

Although we don’t know if NYI offered Dobson +++, I’m going to assume they didn’t offer much more.
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Ya because it won’t just be Raz. Raz +++ for 2nd overall should make sense for both sides

Although we don’t know if NYI offered Dobson +++, I’m going to assume they didn’t offer much more.
What is this madness.
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People use the phrase 'injury prone' WAY too often and quickly.

Injuries are random. Two injuries to the same player is simply normal random variance. Even half a dozen injuries, over a multi-year period, is simply random. It does not mean the are more likely than other players to get injured again.

Of course, there ARE some people for whom it applies, but they are pretty rare. Multiple concussions is a very big concern. Ongoing back problems is a big concern. Two unrelated injuries do not make someone injury prone.
You could look at the two injuries that Zary incurred this season as him being less injury-prone. Both hits looked like he would suffer serious damage requiring surgery, but he was only out for weeks for both. He could be made of adamantium for all we know.
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Andersson++ for Robertson


Robertson+ for 2OA. Sharks get a local star winger just entering his prime


I know it won't happen, but it would give me life
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Really makes it extra unlikely the flames get a pick in the top 7 or 8 if the isles are desperate for it and have better picks. Wish the ekblad domino would fall as after that it feels like rasmus will be the main option left for teams looking to improve their blueline
For some teams Andersson is already the top choice.

- Ekblad is higher pedigree and more talented but will also be more expensive.
- Andersson is more durable, can be dirt cheap for 1 year and with an 8 year extension a team can have him a full competitive Win-Now cycle.

A team like the Stars and 'Canes cannot consider Ekblad at all.
The Sharks can go for either Ekblad or Andersson, but in an Andersson trade the Sharks could try to get D prospects that they need too.
Mammoth and CBJ have cap space to spare but could also benefit from a cheap Andersson if they want to make other moves like chasing Marner.
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Andersson++ for Robertson


Robertson+ for 2OA. Sharks get a local star winger just entering his prime


I know it won't happen, but it would give me life
The Stars would just trade Robertson for the 2nd overall if that was on the table
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Just waiting for the obligatory presser at 10 tonight with Conroy saying there was alot of conversations nothing really got close, Andersson loves being a Flame so we'll go into the season with him.

Come trade deadline its a sellers market o we get a 2nd a b level prospect or he gets injured and we get nothing.

With the trades being made today and the prices paid I really hope Raz is traded in the next 3 hrs before the draft.
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sillinger for 18, sure. But i'm not enamoured with it. Would personally like it if we threw the kitchen sink at moving to #4 (ie: 18, 31, andersson, future 1st). We get a young controllable asset that can grow with parekh and hopefully honzek.
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Just waiting for the obligatory presser at 10 tonight with Conroy saying there was alot of conversations nothing really got close, Andersson loves being a Flame so we'll go into the season with him.

Come trade deadline its a sellers market o we get a 2nd a b level prospect or he gets injured and we get nothing.

With the trades being made today and the prices paid I really hope Raz is traded in the next 3 hrs before the draft.
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I couldn’t even gif it. It needed to be typed.

Whats crazy is people dream of 2nd overall and we have maybe one asset that would START the conversation but not end it and that’s Wolf.
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The Stars would just trade Robertson for the 2nd overall if that was on the table
I think the idea would be Dallas prefers players that help them now during their competitive window (Andersson + Posposil for example) rather than picks/prospects that help 3-4 years from now (eg. Misa).

And the Stars were rumoured to be very interested in Andersson. Again, it’s very, very unlikely but I think the trade would make sense for all 3 teams.

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Just waiting for the obligatory presser at 10 tonight with Conroy saying there was alot of conversations nothing really got close, Andersson loves being a Flame so we'll go into the season with him.

Come trade deadline its a sellers market o we get a 2nd a b level prospect or he gets injured and we get nothing.

With the trades being made today and the prices paid I really hope Raz is traded in the next 3 hrs before the draft.
What’s with all the Debbie downers. The worst case is they get the same return as Hanifin. Doesn’t sound like Conroy has any ideas of keeping Andersson. The only reason would be if the return isn’t there.
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People use the phrase 'injury prone' WAY too often and quickly.

Injuries are random. Two injuries to the same player is simply normal random variance. Even half a dozen injuries, over a multi-year period, is simply random. It does not mean the are more likely than other players to get injured again.

Of course, there ARE some people for whom it applies, but they are pretty rare. Multiple concussions is a very big concern. Ongoing back problems is a big concern. Two unrelated injuries do not make someone injury prone.
This is particularly true for Andersson, who has missed all of 11 games his entire career.

Availability is a skill.

Ekblad misses 11 games a year as a matter of course, the only question is does he miss 20 games or 30.

I know which one I’d give the bag to.
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