2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor

Source? (It's not apparent to me.)

Treliving has said it in interviews.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Treliving has said it in interviews.

+ Hartley as well on a few occasions.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor

Source? (It's not apparent to me.)

To add, Crosby even said it was sad to see him go as he was a big part of the team in Pittsburgh, something a long the lines of a "calming influence"

[sureLoss]

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: "It sounds like they're interested in making some moves. How significant? We'll find out." #Flames

[Poe969]

Is he talking about something happening soon or in general?

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Is he talking about something happening soon or in general?

Meh, its Dreger. He's the weatherman of NHL rumors. "Could this happen? Maybe. Will it happen? I don't know. But my sources say there is interest."

I could see firefighters approach a burning building and say "Can they put it out? Maybe. Will they put it out? I don't know. But I do know they want to."

[Vinny01]

With the return of Smid and near return of Beodie the flames are in a position to ship out a blueline for a forward. Even though the team is bad and it puts them in a position of weakness, being one of only a couple teams that can trade a blueliner puts them in a position of strength.

I would like to see them ship Wideman out and see what that nets in return and what that does for the team. If the team continues to struggle then look at trading Russell, Hudler, Jones, Hiller (if possible) at the deadline for futures.

The season is not completely over yet but it does appear to be slipping away. If the team can relieve some cap constraints and add some picks heading into the next draft then the Flames could be poised for big things next year

[Vinny01]

A deal I saw on HF that I thought about earlier is Wideman for Perron. Pitt needs D and Wideman would fit their system nicely. Perron has fallen off the map but has performed well in the past and is 26 years old and pending UFA. He could be another asset the flames flip or could be a longer term solution. He could provide some second line scoring?

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

A deal I saw on HF that I thought about earlier is Wideman for Perron. Pitt needs D and Wideman would fit their system nicely. Perron has fallen off the map but has performed well in the past and is 26 years old and pending UFA. He could be another asset the flames flip or could be a longer term solution. He could provide some second line scoring?

No tinted visors on the Flames please.

[heep223]

I dunno, Perron is another one of those guys that seems stuck between the 2nd and 3rd line. We're chock full of those already. The Flames need a legitimate 2nd line NHLer.

If there is such a huge market for defencemen as everyone is saying, this should be done already.

[dissentowner]

What about packaging Backlund with Russell? I know everybody loves Backlund but lets be honest, he really is a high end 3rd line C at best and with the C depth we have I think we could make due. He is a good pk but we have other forwards that are too and if you package them both you should be able to get a good top 6 winger back. Then call up Granlund, I think he is a better offensive player than Backlund anyhow and is ready.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What about packaging Backlund with Russell? I know everybody loves Backlund but lets be honest, he really is a high end 3rd line C at best and with the C depth we have I think we could make due. He is a good pk but we have other forwards that are too and if you package them both you should be able to get a good top 6 winger back. Then call up Granlund, I think he is a better offensive player than Backlund anyhow and is ready.

Good call if adding Backlund sweetens the pot then we should definitely pull the trigger. He is not a core player in my opinion and is movable.

[adc]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

A deal I saw on HF that I thought about earlier is Wideman for Perron. Pitt needs D and Wideman would fit their system nicely. Perron has fallen off the map but has performed well in the past and is 26 years old and pending UFA. He could be another asset the flames flip or could be a longer term solution. He could provide some second line scoring?

Can Pittsburgh afford Wideman's salary?

And Perron is another smaller, soft winger that Treliving seems to be trying to move away from.

[Poe969]

Depending on who's available, there isn't much off of the Flames roster I wouldn't trade.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by adc

Can Pittsburgh afford Wideman's salary?

And Perron is another smaller, soft winger that Treliving seems to be trying to move away from.

Not 100% sure on the salary there is a $750k difference in cap hits. I think Perron plays with a bit of an edge and while not the biggest body does play a similar yet toned down version of what Sam Bennett plays.

I am not thinking we are going to get much more for Wideman and his cap hit is a bit of a problem going forward with he, Dougie, and Brodie all playing the right side (not to mention Engellend).

[adc]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Not 100% sure on the salary there is a $750k difference in cap hits. I think Perron plays with a bit of an edge and while not the biggest body does play a similar yet toned down version of what Sam Bennett plays.

I am not thinking we are going to get much more for Wideman and his cap hit is a bit of a problem going forward with he, Dougie, and Brodie all playing the right side (not to mention Engellend).

I can't find a good source for all of Pittsburghs deal but with Crosby, Letang, Kessel, Fleury and Malkin it seems they are already loaded with big deals.

Plus I think Perron is a UFA so it may be next year that is tough for Pittsburgh to fit Wideman in with.

I think Perron can play with an edge but too often floats around but that may be in large part to Edmonton being out of contention for 99% of the time that he was playing games for them.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by heep223

I dunno, Perron is another one of those guys that seems stuck between the 2nd and 3rd line. We're chock full of those already. The Flames need a legitimate 2nd line NHLer.

If there is such a huge market for defencemen as everyone is saying, this should be done already.

I think Calgary could use a Perron type player until we develop our own agitator. Perron is a PITA to play against, no? Maybe I am thinking of someone else.

That does not preclude making a trade for a 1-2 line RW. IMO this team needs a real tough power RW that can play on either top two lines. Like a Lucic or Kane.

On the first line, that is a dimension that is missing - grit. I think Johnny and Sean would be better for it too.

[sureLoss]

McKenzie:

http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-t...e-phones-hard/

“They’ve probably got a surplus of defensemen, so I think right now the names that you’re going to hear out there – Dennis Wideman, Kris Russell – are amongst the defensemen that Brad Treliving is trying to move. But, I mean, you’ve got contract issues. Wideman’s got $11 million left on two years… Nobody wants a lot of these guys right now because they’re not playing well.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I think Calgary could use a Perron type player until we develop our own agitator. Perron is a PITA to play against, no? Maybe I am thinking of someone else.

That does not preclude making a trade for a 1-2 line RW. IMO this team needs a real tough power RW that can play on either top two lines. Like a Lucic or Kane.

On the first line, that is a dimension that is missing - grit. I think Johnny and Sean would be better for it too.

How much grit does Chicago have in their top 6? How many times has an Evander Kane team made the playoffs?

I agree our top 6 is missing something but I think it's the proper mix of tenacity+skill. Monahan is not tenacious. Hudler is somewhat tenacious in front of the net but not so much in the corners. Backlund/Frolik can be tenacious but they're both tweeter 3rd/2nd liners. Right now we have Bennett and Gaudreau as our only tenacious top 6ers and Bennett spends half his time with bottom 6ers and Gaudreau.. teams are keying in on him like he's Gretzky.

Bennett's development is more important than people realize.

I look at the Blackhawks roster and while Kane is skilled, their tenacity comes from the pair of Toews and Hossa. Those two drive that team. It's not grit - I wouldn't call either of those players "gritty" but they are 60-70 point forwards who never lose puck battles and have a knack for driving teams crazy.

Where do we get that kind of elite forward? We have to hope our prospects continue to develop and actually get opportunities to play top 6. Bennett, Jankowski, Poirier, Klimchuk, Mangiapane all have the characteristics I think this team needs more of - Skill+Tenacity. Can they be top 6ers? I hope so. Adding a forward in this draft would sure help, wherever we end up we can't be trading the pick like we did last year. From Treliving's comments it sounded like we wanted to draft Kyle Connor who I think has that kind of top line tenacious upside.

[SuperMatt18]

The issue is other teams struggling don't really have any forwards that are worth dealing for, and our players value had dropped after they were at an all time high in the offseason.

Anaheim is in the same boat with having too many d-men and can't score.

Columbus needs D but not sure they have any NHL forwards that they want to deal that aren't cap issues.

Boston may be a fit with them needing back end help, could a UFA swap of Loui Erikson for Kris Russell make sense. Also opens up a little more cap room for the Bruins.

Carolina would be interesting, wonder what it would take to pry Skinner out of there.

There just aren't a lot of teams looking to deal legitimate top 6 forwards.