American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[Duruss]

I'm hearing that a lot of down ballot polls are showing democrats leading, but the for the presidency it's neck and neck? This is a weird election.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by GGG

So what is the real data that you have that is better than polls?

The midterm elections.

Everything hinged on abortion rights and it was a blue wave.

[afc wimbledon]

I think this is the first election we have seen where one side (Trump) actively wants the polls to favour him regardless of reality for his 'I was robbed' narrative, the Harris camp wants to be ahead in the polls, he just wants to look like he's ahead, because of this I think GOP polls are hugely more biased than normal, this won't affect the down ballot races or frankly the actual election

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

The midterm elections.

Everything hinged on abortion rights and it was a blue wave.

They still lost the House and the popular vote margin by almost 3 points though. Yeah they did better than expected for a midterm, but if they perform similarly they'll lose all 3 of the Presidency, Senate, and House.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Cellphones are allowed in polling places in most states, but not allowed to be used. This varies across the country. Because of all the ballot initiatives and the complexity of the ballot there are usually books delivered explaining the positions of the candidates and what the ballot initiatives mean. So, these "tests" are now open book, but you're still not allowed to bring your calculator into class.

You can use your cellphone to research, however it cannot be used for taking photos of your marked ballot (pay to vote schemes) and you can’t use it to communicate with someone else on who to vote for.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Josh

I had both my wife's and my ballot returned within an hour of receiving it.

Two ex-republicans that voted blue all the way down the ballot.

I think there is a lot more of this than the other way around

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by HOOT

You can use your cellphone to research, however it cannot be used for taking photos of your marked ballot (pay to vote schemes) and you can’t use it to communicate with someone else on who to vote for.

Depends on the state and the rules in place. That can also change by county, depending on state rules. American elections are messy because of "states rights" and the ridiculous lengths some states go to make the vote more difficult than easy. Frankly, there should be an app on your phone for voting (with a simple yet rigorous authentication mechanism to validate your identity) and have an in-ballot link to information on the candidates/initiatives so your vote is properly informed. The fact that technology like this is not broadly available is because the politicos want the electorate ill-informed and voting just strictly along party lines.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Neither party is able to a build a broad coalition of the sort that has historically been the norm in U.S. politics, back when presidents would typically win elections with 55-60 per cent of the vote.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1849280343909482824

I don’t think it is due to lack of trying to get a coalition, but more that a lot are very idealistic and want their way and only their way. If people were willing to compromise to at least get a portion of what they wanted, I would think that Harris would be their ideal candidate.

[cral12]

Race to the Whitehouse simulator fwiw:

(can run it once a day)

https://www.racetothewh.com/president/2024/sim

[ResAlien]

You guys are gonna give yourselves an aneurism with all this race to the white house-betting odds-poll watching madness.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Nah. It means I'm either right, or wrong. Not lucky.
So either I'm correct, and the EC ultimately isn't close with Harris winn8ng, or I'm wrong and it is close (or Trump wins).
I'm neither lucky or unlucky, just right or wrong.

That’s like saying in a coin flipping contest if you win you aren’t lucky.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Put in my vote for Kamala early on Tuesday. It's was funny cause I actually went to the county board of election to get an absentee ballot cause I did not want to wait in line for 2+ hours like last time. I went in and saw that people were voting early and said "eff it, I'll get it done with now" and it was a quick line. Voting early is good, 10/10 would do again

Spoiler!

[troutman]

From Seneca to Cuyahoga falls
Said, a, o, oh way to go Ohio

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by troutman

From Seneca to Cuyahoga falls
Said, a, o, oh way to go Ohio

Great band

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by troutman

From Seneca to Cuyahoga falls
Said, a, o, oh way to go Ohio

Or

Let's put our heads together and start a new country up
Our father's father's father tried, erased the parts he didn't like...

[puffnstuff]

I am shocked by this news, well not really

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...rs-1235141313/

This is more shocking but honestly not all that surprising really. Musk and Putin.

https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2669477305/

[activeStick]

Geez, did anyone watch Harris' CNN townhall? I didn't myself, but the reviews from CNN are pretty terrible. I recognize a couple of them as Conservatives/Republicans, but I'm surprised about the reviews from Dana Bash, Axelrod and Tapper and it's hard to ignore when they've all made it known they despise Trump. Axelrod was Obama's senior strategist!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1849466189912645837

[direwolf]

I watched most of the highlights and I thought she was solid. CNN is no good.

[puffnstuff]

I saw clips of it. It was fine, 1000x better than anything the cheeto says.
Surprised Jennings had time to watch, he was pretty busy explaining why the hitler stuff from trump was actually good.
CNN has taken a right turn towards both sidesing everything, so its tough to take what their talking heads say.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

I saw clips of it. It was fine, 1000x better than anything the cheeto says.
Surprised Jennings had time to watch, he was pretty busy explaining why the hitler stuff from trump was actually good.
CNN has taken a right turn towards both sidesing everything, so its tough to take what their talking heads say.

Even if CNN has shifted a bit to the right, it would be hard to believe that they're now suddenly trying to get Trump re-elected... As I mentioned, the 2 Conservative guys? Not surprised and I'm not going to take their reviews seriously, but the other 3 who carry water for whoever is against Trump? The reviews they gave were the last thing they wanted to say about the townhall.