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Old 10-03-2025, 09:14 AM   #2221
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Agreed. Even having Martin on a social media graphic right next to the great man feels off.
Also even if Stan only wins 1 or 2 GS's his backhand alone may put him over the top for me especially given the decline of OHBH use as we may never see one that good again.
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Stan was certainly a late bloomer and his switch to the Yonex VCore 95D (my favorite stick and I have two of them) coincided with him challenging the Big Three along with Andy.

To Stan's credit, he acknowledges that Andy Murray is head and shoulders above him:

“For me, he was part of this Big Four era,” Wawrinka told Express Sport about Murray.

“From 18 years old until 30 he was always fighting with the Big Three, he was always there.

“Let’s put it that way, he won ‘only’ three because all the other [players] were taking but he was always in the final, he was always winning a lot.

For me, his career is nothing compared to mine. He’s way ahead, he won many more titles, things than me, and his level was close to the Big Three for 10 years.”
Pretty wild that they both have the same number of slams. Humble of Wawrinka, but he's absolutely spot on, Murray was on another level for much longer than Stan the Man.
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Old 10-03-2025, 11:30 AM   #2223
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Speaking of Andy, he's pretty good with the flat stick as well...

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Pretty wild that they both have the same number of slams. Humble of Wawrinka, but he's absolutely spot on, Murray was on another level for much longer than Stan the Man.
I totally agree but sports are entertainment first and foremost. Who would you rather pay to watch? Peak Murray or peak Stanimal? I do think that aesthetics matter as it's kind of what separates Nadal/Federer from Novac. Nobody can dispute Djokovic's merits, but if you could only watch two of the big three I'm wagering that 98% of tennis fans are taking Nadal and Federer.
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I totally agree but sports are entertainment first and foremost. Who would you rather pay to watch? Peak Murray or peak Stanimal? I do think that aesthetics matter as it's kind of what separates Nadal/Federer from Novac. Nobody can dispute Djokovic's merits, but if you could only watch two of the big three I'm wagering that 98% of tennis fans are taking Nadal and Federer.
I always enjoyed watching Andy, for the most part anyway. Peak vs peak you go with Wawrinka.
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