Suddenly Fox has gotten a lot of credibility from other posters in this forum, are they not the laughing stock of media in America?
You're moving those goalposts quite a bit there.
You can't in one breath say "MSM HATES TRUMP!" and then when it's pointed out the mainstreamiest of mainstream media in Fox (based on popularity) say in the next "DEMS HATE FOX!"
MSM isn't determined by credibility my friend, only exposure. Or, in your case, based on your agenda.
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You can't in one breath say "MSM HATES TRUMP!" and then when it's pointed out the mainstreamiest of mainstream media in Fox (based on popularity) say in the next "DEMS HATE FOX!"
MSM isn't determined by credibility my friend, only exposure. Or, in your case, based on your agenda.
So where do the other the other four networks fit in in the MSM discussion? Conveniently omitted I see, along with the print media and online networks? Going forward I will use the term numerous media outs, or NMO.
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This health care travesty will pass today, the Republican administration wouldn't dare let it go to a vote without assurances it would pass. They couldn't stand losing face like that.
The hope now is that it dies in the senate but they're using some procedural rule IIRC so it will only need 51 votes to pass instead of 60.
God is the employer based health insurance system such garbage. Stupid backwards country.
The conservative persecution narrative is downright silly at this point. Almost "Christians are being persecuted in the US" level of absurdity
When you view equality as a zero sum game your only narrative option is that you're being attacked. I add Monty Python's "look look I'm being oppressed!" after each one of their posts, it makes their silliness bearable.
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That's the funniest thing I've heard Colbert say in a while and now he's getting buried for it. The left used to enjoy a complete monopoly on 'funny', but now they are tip toeing through the tulips and are in danger of losing the funny arms race.
How can I watch the vote?
Ideally from inside the House chamber, where there will likely be a couple dozen moderate Republican members standing, waiting, staring at the overall vote tally and just hoping they don't have to vote "yes" on this bill. Watch them, and watch how leaders work them and decide who is free to vote "no" and who has to walk the plank on this.
Keep an eye on how long the vote is open. How long the vote stands just below the gold 216 mark. And, if by chance leaders push it a few votes above the necessary 216 votes, keep a close eye to see if any members flip their votes back to "no." Who, specifically, should I watch?
There are plenty of lists out there of undecided members, or those leaning "no," and those will all be worth keeping an eye on. But the key is (and frankly, has always been throughout the last two weeks), Rep. Patrick McHenry. He's the chief deputy whip and is a manic, if absurdly patient, worker of votes. Watch where he goes and who he talks to. That's the key on who might be wavering, who they need to vote "yes" immediately, and perhaps, who has just been freed to vote "no."
So, if I'm reading this correctly a lot of undecided members will be voting for something that could potentially destroy their chance of re-election and this McHenry fella gets to decide who can opt out potentially saving their jobs?
His EO on religious rights, to openly discriminate, based on preference or gender is certainly MAGA, like it was 50 years ago or so.
Trump is pushing America so far back, it would be funny, if so many people weren't adversely affected.
Paul Ryan talking about the ACA in 2009.
lol, can't rush things through without knowing whats in them or how much they cost. Apparently not a big deal today.
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The House Rules Committee has allocated ***one hour*** of debate for a health care bill that will affect millions and 1/6 of the economy.
Dennis Miller is the only legitimately funny comic that comes to mind on the right.
And where is he? He sometimes appeared on Bill's show.
Trevor Noah, Samantha bee, real Colbert etc. as a group are a huge step down from Stewart, parody Colbert, Obama's anger translator, etc.
The left is still rolling in the mainstream, but are losing major ground with new media (youtube and podcasts), which skews to a younger and more influence-able audience. The youtube SJW channels there consistently losing ground to the alt-right.
Joe Rogan has the most popular podcast in the world (or close to it) with around 100 million listens per month, and he regularly has funny right people: Steven Crowder, Gavin McInnes, Milo, Alex Jones (Alex Jones on Joe Rogan is the most popular podcast of all time), etc.
The left has gotten ridiculously pious since Trump has been elected, and piety gets old fast. The right is armed with free speech and being taboo, which is highly conducive to funny.
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President Trump on Thursday said he would direct the Internal Revenue Service to relax enforcement of rules barring tax-exempt churches from participating in politics as part of a much-anticipated executive order on religious liberties.
The order — which Trump formally unveiled in a Rose Garden ceremony with Christian leaders — also offers unspecified “regulatory relief” for religious objectors to an Obama administration mandate, already scaled back by the courts, that required contraception services as part of health plans, the officials said.
