WQF (3) Vancouver Canucks vs (6) San Jose Sharks (Sharks win 4-0!!!!).

[sun]

The butthurt is so strong right now, I love it. That video is hysterical. You live by the sword, you die by it. Never change, canucks fans.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Kelly Sutherland has reffed 20 Canuck games and in 19 of them their opponents have had more power plays

interesting

It would only be interesting if the stat showed the calls he made. I looked into this a few years ago because people were claiming refs from BC were favoring the Canucks and what I found was it wasn't true. Sutherland was the ref that "favored" them the most but not by much. That could have changed (maybe he was mad they blew a 2-0 lead in the SFC) but I doubt it means much in the big picture.

I don't really care enough to look it up but the true test would how many penalties he called, not how many were called in a game because there is another guy on the ice making calls.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Kelly Sutherland has reffed 20 Canuck games and in 19 of them their opponents have had more power plays

interesting

That seems very surprising the NHL would allow that to happen. I wonder if any other ef called 20 of a certain teams games

[landshark]

Why are people STILL talking about THE CALL? Does it really matter? Did anyone notice once Couture rang a shot off the post, the sharks came in waves - one after another. All VAN could do was to shove the puck back to center ice and get off. They weren't going to score in the OT and win the game. They weren't going to storm ahead and win the next 3 games either. VAN fans are talking alike Sutherland snatched their Stanley Cup right from their clutches.

But, this isn't why I stopped by...

Thought some might enjoy this article about SJ's most unsung hero - Vlasic and how he was greatly responsible for keeping the Sedins off the scoreboard.

http://sunbelthockey.com/vlasic-kept...sweep-canucks/

Vlasic, who was the Sharks 35th overall pick in the 2005 draft, doesn’t get a lot of press. He’s not flashy, just shows up for work on a consistent basis, isn’t prone to injury and goes about his duties in a very solid fashion. He averaged 20:49 TOI/G in the regular season, which was second to Dan Boyle’s 22:47, but doesn’t spend a lot of time in the sin-bin. This is because he’s almost always in position, rarely caught behind the play, and thus he has no need to clutch, grab, hold or hook.

[ricosuave]

^ the man who was obtained with the pick from Calgary for Mikka.

Thank you Marc-Edouard!

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by landshark

Why are people STILL talking about THE CALL?

Seriously . One the Sedins (who the hell can tell them apart?) even said that they lost the series long before 'the call.' Call or not, the Canucks had already put themselves in an impossible situation. It was no longer a question of if, but when. Even the players knew that.

So suck it, Nucks apologists.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Kelly Sutherland has reffed 20 Canuck games and in 19 of them their opponents have had more power plays

interesting

Sounds like total BS.

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Kelly Sutherland has reffed 20 Canuck games and in 19 of them their opponents have had more power plays

interesting

In 19 of 20 Canucks games I watch, they deserve more penalties than the other team.

[ricosuave]

I just watched the call in question, and its laughable that anyone is denying that is a penalty.

You might get away with a hook or something in OT but not a boarding.

[handgroen]

Thanks to this thread i have no thanks left

just glad to know all the chickens I've sacrificed haven't died in vain

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Itse

Sounds like total BS.

It really does. If you're going to post a stat like that then frickin prove it.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

was that during the game or at that time?

I heard the media say when he got the penalty, that all he yelled out was that's an elbow

At the time. He got the penalty because of his conduct with the ref.

AV was lying in his press conference.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Kelly Sutherland has reffed 20 Canuck games and in 19 of them their opponents have had more power plays

interesting

Vancouver is 7th in terms of minor penalties and 6th in majors. 2nd in the west behind Dallas.

Isnt it reasonable that more often than not they would be on the more penalized teams? Now 19 of 20 seems high but that is still within the realm of possibility.

The actual fact is that Vancouver takes a lot of penalties, no conspiricy necessary.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Itse

Sounds like total BS.

Just to add to this.

The same guy who brought us this stat also said San Jose had 30 minutes more pp time and said it was a record of something like 40 plus years.

Simple research shows his stats were way off on that too.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm...=powerPlayTime

Phoney guy with phoney stats. I won't even mention his twitter handle as he is a nobody.

[pylon]

I actually do think there is a legitimate conspiracy against the Canucks. And that is what makes this so much sweeter.

[Captain_Obvious]

I think it's safe to conclude: diving, embellishing, biting and hair pulling...

The hockey gods have spoken and they don't approve of Vancouver, their fans and their antics.

Poetic justice at it's finest.

[Dion]

Canucks: Officiating conspiracies? Stop whining and just shut up

What matters is the Canucks have a loathsome reputation for antagonizing referees, both on the ice and off it, and it seems to have put a target on their backs and it’s one they can’t seem shake.

It sure hasn’t helped them. Instead, the more they complain, the more there is to complain about, creating a vicious cycle they have to end and the only way to do that is silence. A lot of it.

For the Canucks, none of this should matter. The reality is they didn’t lose because of calls. They lost because they weren’t as good as the Sharks.

Try and blame the officials during their locker cleanout today and it only fortifies the narrative that the whiners are at it again, and this time they’re complaining about calls in a sweep.

Off camera in San Jose, Ryan Kesler shared with TSN a telling story about his reputation as a diver. He worked diligently last year to change his image. He kept his head down instead of snapping it back. He didn’t bewail calls on the ice. But when the playoffs started he saw Dustin Brown’s act. He viewed him as a player trying to do everything he could to do win and thought he needed to do the same.


He admitted he started diving again. On the first one, all the work he had put in rehabilitating his reputation was gone. Poof.

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/ho...415/story.html

[NBC]

If the Canucks and their fans feel that they were subjected to biased officiating throughout the series, my point to them is that it was of their own doing. Certain teams and players have earned particular reputations throughout the years. The Philadelphia Flyers and Boston Bruins during the 1970s played a particular brand of hockey that resulted in a lot of penalties. There were countless calls that went against them due to the perception that they were probably guilty of the infraction even if they weren't. They earned the reputation of being a bit thuggish and the calls certainly went against them a lot of the time.

The same can be said for Vancouver. The countless acts of diving, embellishing, calling out opposing players, calling out officials, has come home, as they say, to roost. This version of the Vancouver Canucks have earned their reputation as a moderately dishonest team that has zero compunction in trying to con the referees into calling penalties in their favour. No match official, in any sport, likes to be made fool of. The Canucks have succeeded brilliantly in creating an atmosphere where officials undoubtedly question whether they should make certain calls or not. They have become pariahs within the NHL as a result of this pattern of behaviour. It's not just the players on ice that are guilty of this but the organisation as a whole seems to be OK with it. Vigneault certainly has no problem with it and when a club behaves in a particular way, from the top down, it should be no surprise to any rational hockey fan that Vancouver deserves the reputation that they have cultivated.

They have no one to blame but themselves.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by landshark

Why are people STILL talking about THE CALL? Does it really matter? Did anyone notice once Couture rang a shot off the post, the sharks came in waves - one after another. All VAN could do was to shove the puck back to center ice and get off. They weren't going to score in the OT and win the game. They weren't going to storm ahead and win the next 3 games either. VAN fans are talking alike Sutherland snatched their Stanley Cup right from their clutches.

http://sunbelthockey.com/vlasic-kept-sedins-in-a-pickle-as-sharks-sweep-canucks/

Originally Posted by Dion

Canucks: Officiating conspiracies? Stop whining and just shut up

These people will continue talking about the call for a year. This is exactly what's been happening since last year when the Canucks lost the series in OT to the Kings. The crybaby fans are still after the refs and Trevor Lewis who supposedly tripped Dan Hammhuis. It just won't end, wah wah.

[ToraToraTora]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Almost certain he's had a couple since, but the first one was about a year after the incident.


edit: One year to the date actually.
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2011/0...cks-be-afraid/

I love how the writer of that article actually says that he likes Kelly Sutherland and thinks he's a great ref.