Maybe I'm confused... how do messages appear on the robot phone? Are they individual little messages all separate from each other... or are they all contained withing individual conversation strings (IM style)?
If you're talking about a thousand individual little text messages, then of course you'd want to micro-manage them. But the iPhone isn't like that. It treats text messages like an IM client. You don't have thousands of texts... you just have individual conversations that you can either keep or delete.
They're conversations. Exactly like the iPhone.
Of course, if you text a lot, which I do, those conversations can go up to 200+ messages in like a day. So I limit them.
I wasn't insulted. I just don't understand why it has to be something like:
Basically you are telling me what I want is something I shouldn't.. If you don't have a way for me to do it, then don't tell me how I should do it.
Thanks.
OK, you're the one being too sensitive now.
"What's so difficult about letting your messages build up for a week and then deleting all of them with one swipe of your finger?" is a pretty valid question. I don't get why it needed the kind of reaction it got.
I thought we were having a pretty normal conversation, but I guess not.
"What's so difficult about letting your messages build up for a week and then deleting all of them with one swipe of your finger?" is a pretty valid question. I don't get why it needed the kind of reaction it got.
I thought we were having a pretty normal conversation, but I guess not.
Meh, whatever. No big deal.
Once I can jailbreak this thing, I'll find an app that can do what I want...you'll see...you'll ALL SEE....mwahahahahahahahaha...
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Looks like Apple has responded, but I''m not sure what to make of it. Apparently, as their statement alludes to, and as other tech sites are starting to corroborate... this is a fairly common issue with a lot of wireless phones.
Is it, though? I've never heard of it before. I've also never paid much attention to it before, either. All I can really say is that the logic seems to make sense...
Anyway. Here's some snippets. I'm not commenting one way or the other, since I simply do not know enough about how this stuff works. I'm merely adding this to the existing discussion.
The "iPhone Death Grip" is somewhat real, but it's more subtle than a lot of people have been putting on. It's not a deal-breaker and it's not a reason - by itself - not to buy the iPhone. But the nearly hysterical online reaction to the death-grip news reveals what people are really thinking.
First, here's Apple's official statement, with which I completely agree.
"Gripping any phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas. This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. If you ever experience this on your Phone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band, or simply use one of many available cases."
If I hold the phone in a slightly sweaty left hand, with my fingers covering the three black lines on the phone's edge and the bottom left corner in my palm, signal strength is somewhat reduced. If I had to pick a number out of the air, I'd say it's by -3 to -5 dBm. Feel free to correct me if you have the appropriate lab equipment. The hand involved has to be a little sweaty to encourage conductivity, or the trick might not work.
This doesn't have any effect on connecting voice calls in areas with strong signal, but it can make the difference between connecting and not if you're already in a fringe signal area.
The death grip makes more of a difference for data. I started a speed test using the Speedtest.net app with the phone sitting on a table. When I picked it up with the Death Grip, download speeds were often reduced by 50% or more. Putting the phone down again restored the download speeds.
I couldn't duplicate the same effect with the same grip on an iPhone 3GS or an HTC phone, although editor Dan Costa has a cool (and different) death grip which can knock two signal bars off his Palm Pre. Using one of Apple's $29 bumper cases negated the iPhone 4 death grip, which means to me that it clearly has something to do with conductivity.
Several readers have pointed out that, as per Steve Jobs statement, other mobile phones also suffer from similar signal degradation while being held tightly. In fact, a support thread for Google's Nexus One described a very similar issue back in February:
If you go to Settings -> About Phone -> Status you will see a display for "Signal strength". When my phone is sitting on the desk, the signal stays consistent. However, the second I touch my phone, the signal drops up to as much as -20 dBm. I am able to replicate this test every single time, whether the signal is incredibly strong or weak.
Another user filmed this video of his Nokia 6230 showing the same phenomenon:
The entire point that Android folks constantly try to argue with you, FanIn80, is that our phones allow us to do what we want with them, and Apple tells you what you can do with your iPhone.
Want it to get rid of messages automatically? You can.
Don't want to? Turn it off.
Want to only get apps from the Market? Leave the "no outside apps" box checked.
Want to get apps wherever you want? Uncheck the box.
Want to change your background? Of course.
Want to have folders? Years ago, sure.
Want to delete any app you want, rather than create folders of "useless app icons"? I think this one's a no brainer.
Want widgets that provide quick access to info without opening an app? What would that hurt?
Want a phone with a keyboard, or a giant screen? There are choices.
To this consumer, choices = win.
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Actually wait a bit till Telus gets the newer Android phones and 2.2 comes out. Then come.
You won't regret it.
LOL...
I am with Rogers though and would want to stay with Rogers. As a company, they have treated me very, very well. Had nothing but bad experiences with Bell and Telus. Rogers have any decent Android phones?
I agree with him about the weather icon. My mom kept calling me when she first got an iphone asking why her weather app was broken because it was always sunny and 23°
The entire point that Android folks constantly try to argue with you, FanIn80, is that our phones allow us to do what we want with them, and Apple tells you what you can do with your iPhone.
Want it to get rid of messages automatically? You can.
Don't want to? Turn it off.
Want to only get apps from the Market? Leave the "no outside apps" box checked.
Want to get apps wherever you want? Uncheck the box.
Want to change your background? Of course.
Want to have folders? Years ago, sure.
Want to delete any app you want, rather than create folders of "useless app icons"? I think this one's a no brainer.
Want widgets that provide quick access to info without opening an app? What would that hurt?
Want a phone with a keyboard, or a giant screen? There are choices.
To this consumer, choices = win.
And the iPhone were like Android and one manufacturer made one with problems like we see here in early batches (I am sure that Apple will fix/improve them), people could simply choose another model.
I am with Rogers though and would want to stay with Rogers. As a company, they have treated me very, very well. Had nothing but bad experiences with Bell and Telus. Rogers have any decent Android phones?
Nothing that I would jump all over right now.
But there are a lot of rumors of numerous Android devices coming to Canada in the future, and I'm sure Rogers will get in on the game.
And the iPhone were like Android and one manufacturer made one with problems like we see here in early batches (I am sure that Apple will fix/improve them), people could simply choose another model.
To further derail a pretty interesting thread....
Even amongst Android phone makers there is competition. HTC and Motorola are going all out at each other right now to put out the best phone.
Its awesome.
Evo 4G just came out, and already the Droid X is out.
