[PGT] Flames beat Stars 4-3 in OT

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Lol not sure if serious ^

They've upgraded from basement fodder to bubble team at the very least.

The Flames have been a top-ten team since the end of October.

[Badgers Nose]

That was a dominant game and would have been a Flames blow out with better finishing.

Dallas bore the hallmark of great teams in almost stealing 2 points from a bad game.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Don’t want one. No team with a McDavid ever won a cup.

He may win a cup on a team where he's not counted on as the team leader.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The Flames have been a top-ten team since the end of October.

Quite a ways to go yet.

Basement team for a month, top 10 team for a month. Puts them in the bubble. What they are depends on what they do with the rest of the season+. If they sustain their "Zary Flames" level of play and prove that's what they are, then maybe they are one of the better teams. It would be an enjoyable turn of events, but I won't count eggs with this team. Have been burnt too many times..

[Muta]

I will say that it seems the team has figured out Huska's defensive system, and it's now working - really well. Took about 25 games to get there, which is reasonable to understand and implement a new system when a new coach comes in. Hanifin, Weegar and Tanev have been absolutely unreal.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Muta

I will say that it seems the team has figured out Huska's defensive system, and it's now working - really well. Took about 25 games to get there, which is reasonable to understand and implement a new system when a new coach comes in. Hanifin, Weegar and Tanev have been absolutely unreal.

And now that they have had more practice time we're seeing new wrinkles and ideas in the offensive zone too. More varied on zone entries and exits. And more movement in the offensive zone.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Red_Baron

Stolen from Hockeyanswered.com:

79.1 Hand Pass – A player shall be permitted to stop or “bat” a puck in the air with his open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be stopped unless, in the opinion of the Referee, he has directed the puck to a teammate.

A player shall be permitted to catch the puck out of the air but must immediately place it or knock it down to the ice. If he catches it and skates with it, either to avoid a check or to gain a territorial advantage over his opponent, a minor penalty shall be assessed for “closing his hand on the puck” under Rule 67 – Handling Puck.

So NHL, did his hand direct the puck to his teammate or did it hit his leg on the way down and bounce to his teammate?
Or did they determine that Backlund has another hand on his thigh that the rest of us can't see and that hand directed it to Huberdeau?

Maybe by ruling it no goal they're indicating that Backlund is well endowed and used his "third hand" to his advantage.

I wasn't sure if challenging a challenge was a thing (i thought this was done a few years back) but the scoring team should have this at their disposal for this reason. A glance at the rulebook and a little further discussion from the Flames should get any impartial ref to revise that overturning.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And now that they have had more practice time we're seeing new wrinkles and ideas in the offensive zone too. More varied on zone entries and exits. And more movement in the offensive zone.

I've been extremely impressed with Backlund and Kadri's zone entries. They've both been really effectively carrying the puck into the zone and allowing their wingers to get set up.

[SuperMatt18]

That's not the current NHL rule from the rule book, there is a section missing thsy clarifies that it deflecting off Backlund after he used his hand to stop the puck doesn't not negate it being a hand pass.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

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[getbak]

Originally Posted by Muta

I will say that it seems the team has figured out Huska's defensive system, and it's now working - really well. Took about 25 games to get there, which is reasonable to understand and implement a new system when a new coach comes in. Hanifin, Weegar and Tanev have been absolutely unreal.

I keep thinking this feels like the opposite of the Brent Sutter days.

If you remember his first season behind the bench, the Flames had one of their best starts ever and were fighting for first overall in early December (they beat San Jose on HNIC on December 5 -- the night of the Scorpion save, to move to within 4 points of the Sharks for first overall with 3 games in hand, and had an identical record as Chicago -- who would win the Cup 7 months later).

After every game, a dour Sutter would come out and complain that even though they were winning, they weren't winning the right way and needed to start playing his system better. By the end of that season, he finally had them playing his system and they missed the playoffs for the first time since the '04 run.


This year, they struggled to play the system to start the season and looked completely disjointed. Now that things are clicking, they're starting to win.

If only they could figure out the PP, then I might start believing.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Oh don't worry. In a couple of years neither Alberta team will have a McDavid and then the real fun begins.

This future keeps me going.

[FBI]

I dunno if it’s just me but our passing looked REALLY crisp in that game. And a bunch of good ones from Huberdeau.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Vincent Trochek is a pretty good comparison to Lindholm.
Similar production for the most part. Lindholm has averaged 57 points per 82 games. Trochek has also averaged 57 points per 82 games. Trochek being slightly higher.

Both are defensively responsible. Trochek recently signed a 7 year deal at $5.625 million per. He's playing on the 2nd line with Panarin and Lafreniere.

Yup, and I'm sure Conroy has pointed out Trochek to Lindholms agent.

At 29 years old I think Lindholm made a massive mistake turning down $8.2m

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by FBI

I dunno if it’s just me but our passing looked REALLY crisp in that game. And a bunch of good ones from Huberdeau.

Easily top 5 game for Huberdeau as a Flame, and probably his best passing game:

He probably made 7 or 8 really good cross seam passes to pinching dmen or his linemates off the rush last night.

Backlund was handling the puck like a grenade for the first 30 minutes though so a lot of them went to waste.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Easily top 5 game for Huberdeau as a Flame, and probably his best passing game:

He probably made 7 or 8 really good cross seam passes to pinching dmen or his linemates off the rush last night.

Backlund was handling the puck like a grenade for the first 30 minutes though so a lot of them went to waste.

Yeah, because of the discussion about passing percentage I watched Huberdeau's passes in the first period and he didn't miss one. Which TBF is good/lucky/unusual. You'd expect a couple to be deflected or missed by the receiver even if the pass was OK.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

That’s the play. There are several questions:

1. It was not batted toward a teammate, so by the rule, it had to be batted somewhere that would give the Flames an advantage (which is why the batted puck from behind the net in the other game should not have counted). I can’t see how batting the puck in a way that after you lose sight of it, it goes off the dasher and then the back of your leg and into a scrum could be possibly considered an advantage, especially to the extent that it could overturn the call on the ice.

2. Why was Dallas given the opportunity to discuss with the referee whether they should challenge the call before they decided to challenge it? This significantly reduced the risk of losing the call that is intended to discourage teams from making borderline challenges like this one.

Hard to answer #1. For #2, I don't think the announcers were correct on them discussing it, I believe they were trying to show him the time the hand pass occurred.

Allowing a team to go back a few seconds to a missed call in the zone needs to end. It makes for a situation where the attacking team can't legally score without clearing the zone, but if they give the puck up then the other team can. There's no reason a missed call should give the other team a free play, and if the team spots an obvious missed call, they could send a player down ice and take some chances.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

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I love:

That blockhead Weegar

Like he wouldn't instantly be the best Oilers defenceman, and probably fix a lot of the problems with that team.

Weegar is a beauty, and on a great contract.

Nurse at $9.25M, Weegar at $6.25M is absolutely hilarious.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by getbak

If only they could figure out the PP, then I might start believing.

There's only so much practice time to go around, and with all the road games they haven't had much of it.

I expect the heavy work on the PP to begin during this home stand.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

There's only so much practice time to go around, and with all the road games they haven't had much of it.

I expect the heavy work on the PP to begin during this home stand.

I hope so. In the last 4 weeks, the PP is +2 against Seattle and -2 against all other opponents.