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Old 12-01-2023, 01:59 AM   #181
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8-3-2 in the last 13 games. And they were losing in 9 of the 10 games they got points in. Only the Montreal game were they never losing.

Just crazy and fun to watch.
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Boy I would have been mad if they called off that OT goal. Dallas won the Stanley Cup on an OT goal that should have been called off according to the rules of the day.
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Old 12-01-2023, 02:52 AM   #183
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Lol not sure if serious ^

They've upgraded from basement fodder to bubble team at the very least.
lol, because of where they’re sitting right now? They started 2-7-1, with a new coach. They’ve gone 8-3-2 since. Tad too early to say they’re a bubble team.
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Old 12-01-2023, 03:00 AM   #184
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lol, because of where they’re sitting right now? They started 2-7-1, with a new coach. They’ve gone 8-3-2 since. Tad too early to say they’re a bubble team.
Tad too early to say what they are, one way or another. They could be just about anything.

I've found in the past that you can get a pretty fair idea what a team really is by taking their overall record for the season, then throwing out the longest winning streak and the longest losing streak. But if you do that with this year's Flames, you hardly have anything left to go on.

It would make me happy as a fan to think they're closer to the 8-3-2 team than the 2-7-1 team, but I have lived enough to know what what makes me happy rarely coincides with what is true.
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Love watching a game come down to the way it was meant to be played. With a few people huddled around an iPad, a few more watching on screens hundreds of miles away, all of them analyzing a play as it unfolds frame by painstaking frame, as players mill about, coaches chew gum, and thousands of spectators wonder wtf is going on.
Lost in all of that thrill and excitement, is just how much the Flames deserved to win this game.

I’m hating the league, but right now, but I’m loving our team. I’m so proud of how hard this team has worked to have us at this point after the nadir that was the Heritage Classic.
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Old 12-01-2023, 04:21 AM   #186
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It's crazy, because at the beginning of the year I would have said Lindholm was the most important player of the UFAs by a mile, and there was no way the team could be any good without him. With the Kadri and kids line emerging and Hanifin upping his game, it looks like Hanifin is the hardest to replace.

At this point it looks like the Flames could replace Lindholm with a $5 million (as opposed to the $9 million Lindholm wants) second line center, and the team stays just as successful. Finding a Hanifin replacement, not so easy.
Lindholm is a 2nd line center, he never was a true #1

He's still trying to get paid on his 82 point season when his line mates got 219 between them.
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does anybody have video of the "hand pass"? I couldn't find it.

EDIT: is it this, at the beginning of the sequence? Or something before that? Please tell me there was something before that ...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1730443606937497935

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Old 12-01-2023, 06:13 AM   #188
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does anybody have video of the "hand pass"? I couldn't find it.

EDIT: is it this, at the beginning of the sequence? Or something before that? Please tell me there was something before that ...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1730443606937497935
It bounces off the glass, then off his Backlund's glove and knee before going to Huby. They called it a hand pass. It is super hard to see which is why they have the War Room in Toronto to f--k up the calls made on the ice.

The of course similarly f--ked up the call vs Nashville where there WAS a hand pass off the top of the net against Calgary, but the goal still counted.

Much like Toronto decided a "distinct kicking motion" is when the puck that was going in anyway deflects off an unturned skate.

Bottom line IMO - the War ROOM in Toronto really sucks at their single job and should be eliminated.

There should be 1 off ice offical in each rink who is there to determine if the puck crossed the goal line, and that's it. No more coach's challenge. Give it back to the refs' eyeballs.

Perfection is the enemy of good... and the WAR ROOM!!! aren't even close to perfection, so let's go back to good + goal line calls.
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Lindholm is a 2nd line center, he never was a true #1

He's still trying to get paid on his 82 point season when his line mates got 219 between them.
I think Vincent Trochek is a pretty good comparison to Lindholm.
Similar production for the most part. Lindholm has averaged 57 points per 82 games. Trochek has also averaged 57 points per 82 games. Trochek being slightly higher.

Both are defensively responsible. Trochek recently signed a 7 year deal at $5.625 million per. He's playing on the 2nd line with Panarin and Lafreniere.
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“Edmonton has a McDavid, Calgary can’t afford”. Oh so that’s why McDavid is there. Not because of mind blowing lottery ball luck.
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Old 12-01-2023, 07:52 AM   #191
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“Edmonton has a McDavid, Calgary can’t afford”. Oh so that’s why McDavid is there. Not because of mind blowing lottery ball luck.
Oh don't worry. In a couple of years neither Alberta team will have a McDavid and then the real fun begins.
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If we play the Stars in the 1st round it's almost a guaranteed win! We live rent free in their heads!

and our D men scored 3 out of the 4 goals..? that's effing crazy!
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Old 12-01-2023, 08:22 AM   #193
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does anybody have video of the "hand pass"? I couldn't find it.

EDIT: is it this, at the beginning of the sequence? Or something before that? Please tell me there was something before that ...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1730443606937497935
That’s the play. There are several questions:

1. It was not batted toward a teammate, so by the rule, it had to be batted somewhere that would give the Flames an advantage (which is why the batted puck from behind the net in the other game should not have counted). I can’t see how batting the puck in a way that after you lose sight of it, it goes off the dasher and then the back of your leg and into a scrum could be possibly considered an advantage, especially to the extent that it could overturn the call on the ice.

2. Why was Dallas given the opportunity to discuss with the referee whether they should challenge the call before they decided to challenge it? This significantly reduced the risk of losing the call that is intended to discourage teams from making borderline challenges like this one.

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Oh don't worry. In a couple of years neither Alberta team will have a McDavid and then the real fun begins.
Don’t want one. No team with a McDavid ever won a cup.
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Old 12-01-2023, 08:45 AM   #195
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The league looks like a joke when teams can make challenges with minimal restrictions and can discuss extensively with officials whether they should make a challenge. Five teams a challenge button that they must press within 30 seconds of the time they think a call is missed (not waiting until a stoppage. When the game comes to a natural stoppage, the head coach can then tell the head referee exactly what they are challenging. Any attempt to discuss the play with an official before pressing the challenge button voids the challenge. This prevents officials from helping teams in deciding whether to challenge (a clear conflict of interest) and would eliminate most borderline challenges while still preventing the most obvious missed calls.
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Old 12-01-2023, 08:51 AM   #196
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With video the Flames could already have 2 cups.

On the other hand, it’s a joke the way they are using it now
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Old 12-01-2023, 08:55 AM   #197
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Huby with a quiet 3 assist night



I didn't think he was very quiet at all. Huberdeau had a noticably excellent game.

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Really good games from Zary, Huberdeau, and Hanifin.



Whether or not it’s motivated by contract year, Hanifin looks great. Was the best player on the ice IMO.
Yeah, this is the best I have ever remembered Hanifin playing. He looks dominant right now. I have no problem with the team wanting to extend him.

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That was a fun game to watch. Even near the end when it was 3-2, I had hope the team would tie it up. Haven't felt that way in a while. Perfect seeing eye shot by Weegar to tie it up.

Strange to see this team actually win OT games now. God I've missed that.
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I will say...I think the PP has looked so much better with Hanifin and Sharangovich on it.

Hanifin is just quicker at making decision and at walking the line than Andersson was. Andersson has the more dangerous shot but Hanifin makes plays that lead to a better PP IMO
Hanifin also has the ability to get the puck through bodies and on net.
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