His plan was to build around these two players, but his miscalculation was that he could take their continued signings for granted because they were young, while choosing to instead sign veterans willy nilly around them while nickel and diming them because they were RFA's.
Miscalculated power move in a world where the brightest, young stars hold all the power.
"let's save $1-2mil per year on our RFA young stars so we can overpay the supporting cast". Bad move.
You nailed it. This is precisely where Brad went wrong.
If the player drives your team & offense, invest in them accordingly. It's not the area to hardball to save on cap space while you pay the supporting guys who don't bring as much to the table more than they're worth.
That how you lose good will and have it come back to bite you later.
Good thing they got rid of that Big Meanie Darryl Sutter. Now our stars can cash their paycheques in peace and quiet, which, at the end of the day, is what this is all about.
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16,800 announced attendance tonight is the lowest for a Flames home game in a non-COVID year since the 2005 lockout.
The roads weren't that bad.
Disposable income is tight these days. I don’t blame anyone for choosing to spend their money elsewhere.
The on ice product simply isn’t worth it. You alluded to it in an earlier post, but I get the sense that a lot of Flames fans feel no emotional connection with the team right now. When you rebuild you watch your young players grow and develop. You watch the team through the bad years because the young players give you hope for true future. Watching the Gaudreau/Monahan/Tkachuk teams have 50 win seasons and win their division was satisfying because you struggled with those players watching the roller coaster start to their careers. You followed them for years.
With this team it’s just a bunch of hired goons. I have no emotional attachment at all to any part of this teams core except maybe Andersson but he’s suspended. It’s really tough to care one way or the other. When I watched the Capitals game not only did I feel nothing when they blew the lead, I felt nothing when they scored. It’s bizarre. I’m filled with apathy towards this team and frankly the only cure I see for me would be if they sold, started drafting in the top 5-6 again, and gave me some hope.
The thought of the next 8 years of this team is dreadful. If they don’t get the ball rolling soon we could realistically be looking at 10+ years without a playoff team in Calgary.
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As I said yesterday on another thread these are very dangerous times for the flames. Cost of living crisis, bad team, constant increases in ticket prices to keep to the cap, increase in ticket prices to help pay for the new arena. We will be back at 2001 attendances (14000) really quickly if they are not really careful. M
If Conroy compounds the the problem with resigning Hanafin and our no one centre to long expensive contracts then the team could be finished.
Totally stupid move to bring in a rookie GM when the team was clearly in a real mess. Doubled down with bringing in a rookie coach. Have to say this team is run by complete idiots.
I live in Ottawa and could barely bring myself to watch the last few 7pm EST starts, let alone a 9:45pm EST start time tonight. Boring hockey without results. Not worth staying up till midnight or later.
Like others have said, I'm feeling extreme apathy and no emotional investment in the players.
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56.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who
interferes with or impedes the progress of an opponent who is not in
possession of the puck.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who restrains an
opponent who is attempting to “fore-check.”
A minor penalty shall be imposed on an attacking player who
deliberately checks a defensive player, including the goalkeeper, who
is not in possession of the puck.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who shall cause an
opponent who is not in possession of the puck to be forced off-side,
causing a stoppage in play. If this action causes a delayed off-side
(and not necessarily a stoppage in play), then the application of a
penalty for interference is subject to the judgment of the Referee. A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who deliberately
knocks a stick out of an opponent’s hand, or who prevents a player
who has dropped his stick or any other piece of equipment from
regaining possession of it.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who knocks or
shoots any abandoned or broken stick or illegal puck or other debris
towards an opposing puck carrier in a manner that could cause him to
be distracted. (See also Rule 53 – Throwing Equipment.)
A minor penalty shall be imposed on any identifiable player on the
players’ bench or penalty bench who, by means of his stick or his
body, interferes with the movements of the puck or any opponent on
the ice during the progress of the play. In addition, should a player
about to come onto the ice, play the puck while one or both skates are
still on the players’ or penalty bench, a minor penalty for interference
shall be assessed.
The appropriate penalty according to the playing rules shall be
assessed when a player on the players’ or penalty bench gets
involved with an opponent on the ice during a stoppage in play. The
player(s) involved may be subject to additional sanctions as
appropriate pursuant to Rule 28 – Supplementary Discipline.
Thanks.
What does it say about a player hurtling into an opposing player from behind and slamming him headfirst into the boards?
His plan was to build around these two players, but his miscalculation was that he could take their continued signings for granted because they were young, while choosing to instead sign veterans willy nilly around them while nickel and diming them because they were RFA's.
Miscalculated power move in a world where the brightest, young stars hold all the power.
"let's save $1-2mil per year on our RFA young stars so we can overpay the supporting cast". Bad move.
Is this really a miscalculation though? Many of us were calling these moves stupid, even at the time. It was completely foreseeable. Seems to be more delusion or recklessness than an actual miscalculation.
Good thing they got rid of that Big Meanie Darryl Sutter. Now our stars can cash their paycheques in peace and quiet, which, at the end of the day, is what this is all about.
The only positive about Sutter was that nobody wanted to play for him and he single handedly would have forced a rebuild. I do miss that about the ole Jolly Rancher.
As I said yesterday on another thread these are very dangerous times for the flames. Cost of living crisis, bad team, constant increases in ticket prices to keep to the cap, increase in ticket prices to help pay for the new arena. We will be back at 2001 attendances (14000) really quickly if they are not really careful. M
If Conroy compounds the the problem with resigning Hanafin and our no one centre to long expensive contracts then the team could be finished.
Totally stupid move to bring in a rookie GM when the team was clearly in a real mess. Doubled down with bringing in a rookie coach. Have to say this team is run by complete idiots.
Not really, pretty sure as part of the half a billion dollar gift from the taxpayers the deal is that the Flames have to stay for 35 years after construction. Attendance could fall to 8000 a game and it would not really matter.
Going to be some tough years ahead, best approach Conroy can take right now is accelerate the rebuild by trading pending UFA's for prospects, we simply don't have the talent anymore
I made a similar comment at the time and the more time that goes by the more I’m convinced that Tre and his guys did little if any diligence on Huberdeau. Saw his stats and got wide eyed.
Like the diligence done on Brouwer, Neal, Hamonic, etc? Either the Flames have some of the worst pro scouting on the planet or Treliving was simply going after guys that he personally liked and was making the calls mostly on his own. I feel it's probably a combination of the two as if pro scouting was good none of those moves would have been made unless Brad made a lot of moves without consulting others which is something Conroy alluded to. Truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
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