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Old 06-20-2023, 04:43 PM   #201
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I get why everyone is focusing on the controller as it seems silly to most but its actually a fairly common practice now a days to use off the shelf controllers for very expensive machines. I know the US military switched to Xbox controllers for some types of remote operated devices that were previously controlled by 'custom' controllers that were costing upwards of $15k each.

No comment on the rest of the vessel's build quality but the controller is definitely not something to focus much attention on.
Maybe I'll grant you that, but at the same time...the thing is an antique.
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Old 06-20-2023, 04:47 PM   #202
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I'm sure surviving going up to space probably emboldened him too. Those guys probably think nothing bad would ever happen to them.
Such is human nature, at least for many. You conquer one peak, then look to the next one.

If we weren't that way then civilization wouldn't have progressed past a certain point.
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So what are the capabilities the Aurora has when it's on station to find the sub? It drops a sonar buoy or two or three, there's really not a whole lot it can do after is there?
there is a lot of ocean to search through
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Just listening to the BBC coverage and the guy on now, a journalist, did say on one of the trips, the playstation controller did fail. When they were at the bottom of the ocean, they found that the controller would only allow them to go in circles. After a while of trouble shooting, they got it going, but the pilot had to hold it upside down.
The real life tragic implications of "his controller disconnected"
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Better story than 800 immigrants dying on a ship in the med? After being denied to make landfall?

Was wondering why such a massive effort was undertaken to find those 5 people compared to that trying to rescue the migrants who were in plain sight.
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In the end it'll be unlikely that the Logitech controller doomed them.

Unless it glitched and steered them into wreckage or debris where they got caught. But even then, there should still be pings with the surface.

Has anybody referenced The Abyss as an explanation yet?

Maybe they're kicking back with deep sea marine aliens and watching this #####show on their interdimensional tube.
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Better story than 800 immigrants dying on a ship in the med? After being denied to make landfall?
Are any of them Billionaires?
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*flush*

"So...wheres the Titanic?"

You missed it.
lol.... the picture i saw of the toilet it looked like one of those toddler plastic pottys! hahaha. it doesn't flush.
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Was wondering why such a massive effort was undertaken to find those 5 people compared to that trying to rescue the migrants who were in plain sight.
Completely different scenario. The coast guards involved in this rescue had no role in the other situation. I don't know how the Canadian and American coast guards would react to a migrant ship in the North Atlantic, but I believe that they would have assisted it.
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Completely different scenario. The coast guards involved in this rescue had no role in the other situation. I don't know how the Canadian and American coast guards would react to a migrant ship in the North Atlanta, but I believe that they would have assisted it.

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While the game controller thing is damn funny, there is a case to be made for using off-the-shelf parts for systems that do not require innovative tech. Would a custom controller built specifically for this sub have been safer? It's not like the controller is very big, you bring a couple of (previously tested) backups with you, and if it fails, you use one of those. Same with the ballast, being compact and heavy is 99% of the design spec, custom machining it out of unobtanium is overkill.

If the hull failed, which seems the most likely scenario, the design of the other parts is irrelevant. That part is the one that should have been overengineered to withstand 1.5 or 2 times the pressure it was intended to operate under, and what should have been tested with various unmanned prototypes hundreds of times before sending anyone down.
You're so right. Not to be a nerd, but I just finished Andy Weir's newest book (he's the dude who wrote The Martian), Hail Mary or Project Hail Mary or something, and it goes into a lot of detail that had me convinced off the shelf stuff for these kinds of projects is the smartest way to go.
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I get why everyone is focusing on the controller as it seems silly to most but its actually a fairly common practice now a days to use off the shelf controllers for very expensive machines. I know the US military switched to Xbox controllers for some types of remote operated devices that were previously controlled by 'custom' controllers that were costing upwards of $15k each.

No comment on the rest of the vessel's build quality but the controller is definitely not something to focus much attention on.
It's 250k a head to go down there...they could of at least had a backup controller
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Reports they have heard banging coming from the search area.

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It's 250k a head to go down there...they could of at least had a backup controller
How much more does it cost to get back up?
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Reports they have heard banging coming from the search area.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...ng-1234774674/
Might use a bit more air, but one final orgy was clearly calculated to be worth it.
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Reports they have heard banging coming from the search area.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...ng-1234774674/

Weird time for sexual escapades, but the siren song of Mile Deep Club beckons.
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Reports they have heard banging coming from the search area.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...ng-1234774674/
It also says that nothing has been heard since yesterday, so if it was the Titan, that isn't great news.
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Better story than 800 immigrants dying on a ship in the med? After being denied to make landfall?
What I heard was they denied requests for landfall or help multiple times from Greece, deciding to try to carry onto Italy etc. Then the captain abandoned ship when the engine started failing and panic rocked the boat so much it capsized in pitch darkness in the middle of the night. They refused help and rescue until it was too late.
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"The Thirty Fathom Grave" is episode 104 of the American television anthology series The Twilight Zone. It originally aired on January 10, 1963 on CBS. In this naval-themed episode, the crew of a Navy destroyer hear a mysterious rhythmic noise coming from a sunken submarine

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