Submarine Tour to Titanic Missing

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I haven't seen much of the resources dedicated to this search, beyond a couple of Canadian and US coast guard ships. Canadian P-8's and American C-130s. they're also trying to get ROV's into the area.

I've also been trying to figure out what assets Canada is deploying for this. Media coverage has mangled a lot of the details. So far it seems like:

- 1 CP-140 Aurora from 14 Wing Greenwood (ha, we wish we had P-8s...)
- HMCS Glace Bay (Kingston Class Coastal Defence, equipped with a mobile hyperbaric chamber)
-CCGS John Cabot (Fisheries Support)
- HMCS Harry De Wolfe
- CCGS Kopit Hopson (Ice breaker)
- Various SAR assets (C-130's) at the direction of JRCC Halifax

So other than the Aurora, there doesn't seem to be a lot of ASW capabilities from Canada. Worth nothing that the De Wolf and Hopson have flight decks which might be able to host a Cyclone (assuming the ASW capabilities for that have been completed...) Perhaps the surface search is the focus for us.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Locke

Conspiracy Theory: Its a Hoax. This Sub is docked at some water-side Pub somewhere and all these billionaires are having a pint and a laugh at the Global media outpour over this.

Because you'd have to be out your goddamn mind to try and go down to the Titanic in this POS.

Not that I am seriously considering it, but..... if you wanted to fake your own death, this would be the way to do it. Who knows what kind of debt this guy may have been in. Take one last big payment from the passengers (they also had bookings for next year already), say you are going down with the others, then bail at the last minute sending the 4 down alone. Pay off the boat contractor to hide you while all this is going on. Just make sure the vessel is compromised just enough that it implodes at depth so that no human remains will ever be found. Then once all the hullabaloo subsides, take your money and disappear somewhere.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Table 5

It doesn't seem particularly big, but there is an actual porthole to look through at one of the ends.

True, but unfortunately that's also where the toilet is (spoilered for size):

Spoiler!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Not that I am seriously considering it, but..... if you wanted to fake your own death, this would be the way to do it. Who knows what kind of debt this guy may have been in. Take one last big payment from the passengers (they also had bookings for next year already), say you are going down with the others, then bail at the last minute sending the 4 down alone. Pay off the boat contractor to hide you while all this is going on. Just make sure the vessel is compromised just enough that it implodes at depth so that no human remains will ever be found. Then once all the hullabaloo subsides, take your money and disappear somewhere.

Yeah, I'm not really serious about it either, but come on...something isnt right here.

A bunch of Billionaires on some half-assed DIY, backyard submarine?

Originally Posted by Ashes

This guy is not a Billionaire, but he knows BS when he sees it.

Pretty instantly.

[Bigtime]

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65953941

The US Navy is also sending a salvage system to assist with the submersible, with equipment and service people arriving in Newfoundland on Tuesday night.

A Navy spokesperson said: "The navy is sending subject matter experts and a Flyaway Deep Ocean Salvage System (FADOSS), motion compensated lift system designed to provide reliable deep ocean lifting capacity for the recovery of large, bulky, and heavy undersea objects such as aircraft or small vessels.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by opendoor

True, but unfortunately that's also where the toilet is (spoilered for size):

Jeez. I recall once I was on the toilet and my wife came in and just started casually doing her make up like it was no big deal. I was like, privacy please?

Could you imagine dropping the kids off at the pool and having 4 people trying to look at the Titanic behind you? I'd be pretty annoyed.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Jeez. I recall once I was on the toilet and my wife came in and just started casually doing her make up like it was no big deal. I was like, privacy please?

Could you imagine dropping the kids off at the pool and having 4 people trying to look at the Titanic behind you? I'd be pretty annoyed.

*flush*

"So...wheres the Titanic?"

You missed it.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Jeez. I recall once I was on the toilet and my wife came in and just started casually doing her make up like it was no big deal. I was like, privacy please?

Could you imagine dropping the kids off at the pool and having 4 people trying to look at the Titanic behind you? I'd be pretty annoyed.

I've never heard anyone describe taking a crap as this. lol

[jammies]

While the game controller thing is damn funny, there is a case to be made for using off-the-shelf parts for systems that do not require innovative tech. Would a custom controller built specifically for this sub have been safer? It's not like the controller is very big, you bring a couple of (previously tested) backups with you, and if it fails, you use one of those. Same with the ballast, being compact and heavy is 99% of the design spec, custom machining it out of unobtanium is overkill.

If the hull failed, which seems the most likely scenario, the design of the other parts is irrelevant. That part is the one that should have been overengineered to withstand 1.5 or 2 times the pressure it was intended to operate under, and what should have been tested with various unmanned prototypes hundreds of times before sending anyone down.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Locke

*flush*

"So...wheres the Titanic?"

You missed it.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Jeez. I recall once I was on the toilet and my wife came in and just started casually doing her make up like it was no big deal. I was like, privacy please?

Could you imagine dropping the kids off at the pool and having 4 people trying to look at the Titanic behind you? I'd be pretty annoyed.

Since this thing seems like a half-assed Jalopy, the only space for the toilet was in front of the porthole and one of the other Billionaires got the runs?

"We're here guys, the Titanic is right in front of us, but unfortunately Jerry is destroying the crapper...all your cheques cleared right?"

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

So other than the Aurora, there doesn't seem to be a lot of ASW capabilities from Canada. Worth nothing that the De Wolf and Hopson have flight decks which might be able to host a Cyclone (assuming the ASW capabilities for that have been completed...) Perhaps the surface search is the focus for us.

What are the ASW capabilities that would be helpful that the helicopters can deploy that the ships wouldn't have? When I think of helicopter ASW I think of closing distance and dropping torpedoes or sonar buoys but I don't really know what they're capable of beyond that. Given the general location is known, how many planes would need to be dropping buoys to be helpful in the search?

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I've never heard anyone describe taking a crap as this. lol

Well Mr. Addiction is hiding the most common use of that term to avoid being racist but it used to be known as dropping the Cosby kids at the pool.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Well Mr. Addiction is hiding the most common use of that term to avoid being racist but it used to be known as dropping the Cosby kids at the pool.

I think I heard it on South Park. I didn't know there was a another version...

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Locke

Since this thing seems like a half-assed Jalopy, the only space for the toilet was in front of the porthole and one of the other Billionaires got the runs?

"We're here guys, the Titanic is right in front of us, but unfortunately Jerry is destroying the crapper...all your cheques cleared right?"

"It's not the smell guys, it's the burning of the eyes. Something died in here!"

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by flamesaddiction

i think i heard it on south park. I didn't know there was a another version...

ok.

[you&me]

It sure seems odd that a genuine billionaire would put his life in the hands of this Oceangate outfit... Like, you'd have advisors, lawyers, life insurance policies, etc, etc all screaming to not do this.

And FWIW, the Tritone sub capable of reaching the Titanic is about $15mm... Not cheap, but not really unreasonable to a billionaire this committed to seeing the Titanic.

[Ugly Kid Joe]

Originally Posted by Locke

That interview with the reporter is gold. He's basically just laughing at this thing.

I'd be bailing the second I saw the controller.

Nope. Nope. Nope.

I want my money back.

From an article in the Washington Post from 2017:

The U.S. Navy plans to equip its Virginia-class submarines with Xbox 360 controllers, which will control the ship’s periscopes.

These are nuclear attack submarines.

Article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...x-controllers/

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kid Joe

From an article in the Washington Post from 2017:

The U.S. Navy plans to equip its Virginia-class submarines with Xbox 360 controllers, which will control the ship’s periscopes.

These are nuclear attack submarines.

Article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...x-controllers/

Yeah. Thats just the Periscope though. Not the whole damned boat.

[8sPOT]

Originally Posted by you&me

It sure seems odd that a genuine billionaire would put his life in the hands of this Oceangate outfit... Like, you'd have advisors, lawyers, life insurance policies, etc, etc all screaming to not do this.

And FWIW, the Tritone sub capable of reaching the Titanic is about $15mm... Not cheap, but not really unreasonable to a billionaire this committed to seeing the Titanic.

I think in general, billionaires do what they want when they want. One of the main perks of being '#### you' rich.