Can't speak for anyone else, for me I simply had it mapped in my brain as sounding a certain way (cad not cod) and anytime I hear it different I notice, I'll get over it.
Ill use a really obscure example that comes to mind, the word Lich (which is a word that I rarely hear said) but I have it in my head as 'like' and if I hear someone say 'litch' it's jarring, shrug.
I find complaining about commentating in general to be irritating. I used to do it too, but then I realized I'm watching the play happen myself. What two other dudes watching it talk about is so incredibly minor.
Complaining about the studio analysts? Fine. They are the entertainment. But the way someone describes what I'm seeing with my own eyes is really far down the list of things that affect my enjoyment of the game. Different for radio announcers, sure. But TV?
No one watches hockey just to watch the athletic action. It's story telling and emotion and certainly the play by play and color can affect that, but it's all baked in before the drop of the puck. How invested in each game I am is built on lots of twists and turns in the real life soap opera that is hockey. Not how what I'm seeing is described to me
Apparently, Kadri is a name in India - although it’s not super common from what I can tell. It does appear to be pronounced quite similarly to how Singh pronounces it. Not sure it is overly relevant but may have something to do with why he says it the way he does.
Maybe Singh is just such a big fan he wants to claim Kadri as an honorary Punjabi. Understandable. Who wouldn't like to have Kadri as part of their community?
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Maybe Singh is just such a big fan he wants to claim Kadri as an honorary Punjabi. Understandable. Who wouldn't like to have Kadri as part of their community?
It really is just as simple as that. It would barely be noticed if a play-caller said a specific player's name in a Scottish, or a South African accent. I very much doubt that anyone would be especially bothered by it.
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It really is just as simple as that. It would barely be noticed if a play-caller said a specific player's name in a Scottish, or a South African accent. I very much doubt that anyone would be especially bothered by it.
I'm not sure I agree.
I think if an announcer started pronouncing only a single players name with a Scottish accent all of a sudden that people would complain about it.
Mostly just because people like to complain about announcers.
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Even when Kadri introduces himself, like in the video above, he'll pronounce it the English way because he's speaking English.
I also have a unpronounceable name and when I introduce myself in Canada, for example professionally, it's the English pronunciation of it, not the unpronounceable 3 accents version of it.
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Moved to Sydney for a year, at one point a group of us rented a bus to drive up the coast to spend New Years in a small town called Byron Bay. Passed through a town on the way called Forster and someone remarked that it's a name that doesn't really roll off the tongue, one of our group that was an ozzy said it's pronounced Fosta, with both Rs silent. I remember thinking hmm sure you say it how you want, but that says Forster.
Moved to Sydney for a year, at one point a group of us rented a bus to drive up the coast to spend New Years in a small town called Byron Bay. Passed through a town on the way called Forster and someone remarked that it's a name that doesn't really roll off the tongue, one of our group that was an ozzy said it's pronounced Fosta, with both Rs silent. I remember thinking hmm sure you say it how you want, but that says Forster.
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"woosta-sha"
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But Singh is IndoCanadian, and he is fiercely proud of that heritage. Unless Kadri has a problem with it, why shouldn't he be allowed to show this tiny piece of his own cultural diversity?
It shouldn't be "unless Kadri has a problem with it". You shouldn't pronounce a player's name incorrectly just because you feel like it until they tell you it bothers them.
The correct path - and lots of announcers and media people do this - is to just ask the player directly, or ask the team to ask the player, how they want their name to be pronounced. For example, Elias Petterson's name is pronounced "Uh-lee-ahs Pehtt-air-shohn", but he was asked and said he would rather they just pronounce it in a North American accent. So they do.
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It shouldn't be "unless Kadri has a problem with it". You shouldn't pronounce a player's name incorrectly just because you feel like it until they tell you it bothers them.
The correct path - and lots of announcers and media people do this - is to just ask the player directly, or ask the team to ask the player, how they want their name to be pronounced. For example, Elias Petterson's name is pronounced "Uh-lee-ahs Pehtt-air-shohn", but he was asked and said he would rather they just pronounce it in a North American accent. So they do.
Exactly, this would be annoying enough in a normal environment - like you have a co-worker whose name you decide to constantly mis-pronounce in public because you are proud of your own accent.
Now we are talking to a national TV audience and people who don't know any better are either going to start calling Kadri by a Punjabi name or create annoying internet threads like this one I made.